Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
It's not a proof of God's existance (well, not for them, anyway) but still an idea to ponder upon. Also try to estimate the probability of our universe coming into existence if only random chance ruled the process.
Philosophically speaking, the worst thing about that 'fine-tuning' or 'random chance' claim is that it's taken out of context. There might be 10E100000 more 'universes' co-existing and never (time is a property of a universe too) cross lanes whilst each having all kinds of constants. It's only the universe of our own which is material to us (at this point, at least). In our universe we see only the constants that our universe has. The other constants might produce a different universe with a different conscious beings perceiving their universe with their different senses (which do not exist in our universe) and making conclusion that their consciousness can not be by chance, there must be a plan (or whatever is a substitute for plan in their universe) behind it. And the other 10E100000 - 2 universes had all different constants which were unable to sustain the universe in equilibrium for some long period of time and the matter disappeared there. Bottom line - it doesn't make sense to claim the uniqueness based on only one example.