Thread: God's Name

I'm not taking them too serious. I just said it's an idea to ponder upon. All we know is that somewhat 13.7 billion years ago something hapenned that gave birth to our Universe and ultimately -- to us. What was before that -- nobody knows (well, the question is meaningless because time itself didn't exist then either). The fundamental law -- the law of conservation says that nothing can be spun out of nothingness. Nevertheless, we exist.

Originally Posted by Ramil

I'm not taking them too serious. I just said it's an idea to ponder upon. All we know is that somewhat 13.7 billion years ago something hapenned that gave birth to our Universe and ultimately -- to us. What was before that -- nobody knows (well, the question is meaningless because time itself didn't exist then either). The fundamental law -- the law of conservation says that nothing can be spun out of nothingness. Nevertheless, we exist.

Our internal time did not, but there's nothing which says that outside was nothing and had no time. We could be a bubble inside a brew inside a crucible inside some kid's chemistry set setup. Or not. But any religion always claims "Hey, we have no way to prove what's outside our bubble, but we know exactly who the kid outside is, who made his chemistry set and what color his shoelaces are by dint of faith alone. And only we know the truth, everyone else who claims to says he knows anything different about that which nobody can actually ever know is a liar and must be shown the truth / be killed / be damned."

Personal faith is a nice thing if it helps someone deal with life and does not make him a bad person towards others of a different mindset. But the moment a religion tells a believer to despise someone, to devalue someone or be in any other way bad to someone, then it should be re-evaluated and ultimately eradicated. And faith is no prerequisite for being a good person either. In fact, if fear of the divine is the only thing which makes someone a decent person, then that someone is no decent person.