Thread: Entering Cyrillic Characters

Thanks, WaveTossed! That clears some things up. Although I've seen a lot of grammar books and none mention such a distinction. Of course the books to which I can avail myself are mostly pulp language books that one finds in the neighborhood bookstore. Here they be Barnes & Noble and Borders, and the language section of each is dismal. So dismal in fact that the aggregate languages section between the two is dismal.

Originally Posted by wavetossed

Remember, it is not possible to translate a word exactly from one language to another and therefore, it is not possible to translate a sentence exactly from one language to another.

Naturally there will be these sorts of regions of intranslatability between many languages, particularly between Russian and English. Even the French cannot distinguish between a *house* and a *home*, while the Germans can. However, with the use of verb *aspect*, Russian becomes quite a lot more flexible that most other languages, despite the disuse of various articles, adverbs, and most present tense conjugations of быть. Additionally, one must be sure to differentiate between a translation and a transliteration

Originally Posted by wavetossed

If you want to understand Russian grammar, you need to read about it in Russian. Go to a good bookshop in Russia and look for books like "Kak pravilno govorit'". These books will be in the section for high school and university Russian, i.e. the Russian equivalent of the high school and university English section of our bookshops.

These are excellent ideas, but the likelihood is very low that I would be able to make such a trip. Now if you have any websites that offer these books, it'd be quite useful and save me the $2000 for the trip.

Originally Posted by kwatts59

Какая разница, умереть богатым или бедным?

The difference is that if you die rich you have the option to secure the well-being of your children; if you die poor, you continue the cycle of poverty.

But that's a different thread in a different forum.

Originally Posted by crux_online

Now if you have any websites that offer these books, it'd be quite useful and save me the $2000 for the trip.

Try http://www.ozon.ru

Originally Posted by crux_online

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Naturally there will be these sorts of regions of intranslatability between many languages, particularly between Russian and English. Even the French cannot distinguish between a *house* and a *home*, while the Germans can.
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What do you mean by they can't?

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

Originally Posted by crux_online

...Even the French cannot distinguish between a *house* and a *home*...

What do you mean by they can't?

I'm no French scholar and I don't mean to sound confrontational, but is the word for HOME not the same as the word for HOUSE -- maison?

German: Haus, Heim.

Let me know. I'm genuinely interested.

Originally Posted by crux_online

I'm no French scholar and I don't mean to sound confrontational, but is the word for HOME not the same as the word for HOUSE -- maison?

German: Haus, Heim.

Let me know. I'm genuinely interested.

Your sentence sounded like they are unable to see the difference when they hear these two words. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. It depends on the context and the sentence. But I would say 'home = chez soi' and 'house = maison'.

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[quote=Spiderkat]Your sentence sounded like they are unable to see the difference when they hear these two words. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. It depends on the context and the sentence. But I would say 'home = chez soi' and 'house = maison'.

Rentrer/

I forgot to mention but they also use another word to describe home 'foyer'. The use of these words depends on the meaning of the word itself as either the concrete state or the abstract state, which I think in English would be always the same.
Unfortunately I don't know much about this concerning the other languages so I can't discuss about that.

There's a very famous French forum here.

Originally Posted by crux_online

Also--are there any REALLY GOOD French Language forums?

We have a French forum here at MR don't we? You could finish this in there!

Originally Posted by Spiderkat

I forgot to mention but they also use another word to describe home 'foyer'. The use of these words depends on the meaning of the word itself as either the concrete state or the abstract state, which I think in English would be always the same.
Unfortunately I don't know much about this concerning the other languages so I can't discuss about that.

There's a very famous French forum here.

foyer(фойе) = entrance way to a house

It also means lobby of a hotel/office/business

Originally Posted by kwatts59

foyer(фойе) = entrance way to a house

It also means lobby of a hotel/office/business

But here I was talking about the original French word which means home. The English one, borrowed and added in 1859 to the English vocabulary, has a different meaning.

Originally Posted by crux_online

Q: How are Cyrillic characters entered into the forum?

My initial thought is to have the language installed and use the Windows Language Bar to do quickie swaps.

Yes, that's what you should do. Try the following link: http://www.stanwardine.com/russification.htm

Originally Posted by krazy_kat

Yes, that's what you should do

Thanks krazy_kat. I've actually already set that up.