English attack on Russian
:D hello friends,It is apparent that now english is showing its presence in each and every language,so russian is also not an exception .I want to ask my russian native friends that wheather they are able to tell me about 50 words related to colloquial russian and literary russian which are really taken from english .then it will be my turn............ :evil:
re: English attack on Russian
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Originally Posted by chanchal
:D hello friends,It is apparent that now english is showing its presence in each and every language,so russian is also not an exception .I want to ask my russian native friends that wheather they are able to tell me about 50 words related to colloquial russian and literary russian which are really taken from english .then it will be my turn............ :evil:
Of course. I think every russian can tell even more, than 50 words: everything, connected with a computer (printer, scanner ...) , management, marketing and so on...
re: English attack on Russian
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Originally Posted by TriggerHappyJack
You know what I was thinking..
Like, for us...we could spell Москва as Moskva real easy like right, so it's really ridiculous that we don't...but in cases like Washington they'd have a world all not...the way it usually looks and weird you know...:|
My point is...that it's usually much easier for foreign words to be written and said correctly than it is for English words to be written in foreign languages...and it's kinda lame and stuff...
You know? Lol. :D
I disagree. Until the whole world starts writing in some kind of comprehensive phonetic alphabet with some sixty letters, plus diacritics and stress marks and about fifteen punctuation marks, no language will be able to perfectly copy a word from another language in spelling, pronunciation, stress, intonation and meaning all at the same time. English certainly doesn't have a phonetic alphabet. Russian is a lot closer to being perfectly phonetic, the only problem it has in pronouncing foreign words is that there aren't enough letters in the Cyrillic alphabet.
Besides, you yankie :evil: , you can't even spell sulphur, encyclopaedia, flavour, jewellery or any verb ending in -ise correctly, so don't claim that you know how to spell in English. Talking of encyclopaedias, you may want to look up the definitions of the words "pants", "chips", and "football" - pants are what you call underpants, chips are what you call French fries (only thicker cut and much, much tastier) and football is played using goals where you have to kick the spherical ball under the bar and into a net. You seem to be using those terms in place of "trousers", "crisps" and "a game a bit like rugby, but where the men aren't as tough, so they have to wear kevlar body armour and stop every thirty seconds, and actually very little kicking is done, which goes against what the name 'football' suggests". A "sidewalk" is actually called a "pavement" and "gasoline" is called "petrol" - there are various other examples that you should learn.
Also, "like", "you know", "whatever" and "stuff" are not punctuation marks. :P
Anyway, now that my rant is over, let's get back to the topic at hand:
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Originally Posted by chanchal
:D hello friends,It is apparent that now english is showing its presence in each and every language,so russian is also not an exception .I want to ask my russian native friends that wheather they are able to tell me about 50 words related to colloquial russian and literary russian which are really taken from english .then it will be my turn............ :evil:
re: English attack on Russian
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Originally Posted by Ядерное лицо
Russian is a lot closer to being perfectly phonetic, the only problem it has in pronouncing foreign words is that there aren't enough letters in the Cyrillic alphabet.
There is an interesting note in my copy of Dead Souls that talks about the use of the Greek theta in Cyrillic, and how it slowly became an "f" sound because Russians were incapable of saying the "th" and only did so for words of Greek origin anyway.
It also referred to the Russian Revolution as a "czarectomy"--which I thought was funny (and possibly a great band name).
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Originally Posted by mike
it slowly became an "f" sound because Russians were incapable of saying the "th"
For vose of you oo fink ve Russians are ve only ones wot can't say ththththth - wevver, muvver, bruvver, bovver, fink, teef, feoof - ring any beh-ooz?
re: English attack on Russian
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Originally Posted by VendingMachine
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Originally Posted by mike
it slowly became an "f" sound because Russians were incapable of saying the "th"
For vose of you oo fink ve Russians are ve only ones wot can't say ththththth - wevver, muvver, bruvver, bovver, fink, teef, feoof - ring any beh-ooz?
OK, an initial voiced th is not pronounced v in cockney. For some reason they are able to pronounce that one.
Who is really responsible?
In response to the original question of why those darn English speakers (although I really think he is referring specifically to Americans) are infiltrating Russian, I would pose this question: Who is really responsible for this infiltration? Is it the English speakers who are simply doing what English speakers do (ie. speak English) or is it the speakers of other languages who succomb to the tyranny of Americans who dare to speak English. Perhaps if Russians or anyone else for that matter do not wish to use English words, then simply don't use them. Am I being unreasonable here.
Are Americans telling you you MUST use English words in place of your Russian ones?
The Spanish word for Mosva is Mosc