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Hi,
I'm thinking about going to Russia sometime.
But I want to go to Beslan and I've heard that there's no airport there, right?
So. I was thinking.
Is there anyone in here, who knows a airport in a city not to fare from Beslan?
Thanks.
Regards,
Tenna.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenna
Possible the nearest airport is in Georgia.
I'm sure your government advises against going to that region anyway. I'd only go if you really know what you are doing.
mineralniye vody airport maybe? If you are going to these places, its only a 1.5-2 day train ride from st petersburg or moscow anyway and then like a 5-6 hour bus ride from a number of cties (kislovodsk, pyatigorsk, or maybe nevinommysk? Besides, why bother getting a plane ticket when you can ride the train for like 50 bucks down there. Do you know someone in Beslan? Are you a journalist, or just want to go there. If you dont know someone in the area, it may not be the best idea going there. If you want to go to the Caucasus, id suggest looking at areas further west and just go to Dombai or Elbrus instead
There is an airport in Vladikavkaz. It is also called as
"BESLAN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT"
(this airport is located in a suburb of Vladikavkaz and nearest town to the airport is Beslan).
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http://visitsiberia.com/russia/region.php?r=15
http://visitsiberia.com/images/maps/reg15.jpg
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Beslan.
City in Northern Ossetia, the centre of Pravoberezhny district. It is in 22 kms to the north from Vladikavkaz. It is located on Ossetic plain, on a right bank of the river Terek. There is a railway station and automobile highway. The population - 33.9 thousand people(1996).
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From Moscow (airport Domodedovo)
Aircompany Siberia Airlines
http://www.domodedovo.ru/en/main/timetable/
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Choose destination = Vladikavkaz (Beslan)
Flight S7 882 information
Origin airport Vladikavkaz(Beslan)
Destination airport Moscow(Domodedovo)
Aircompany Siberia Airlines
Aircraft T154
Route Vladikavkaz(Beslan)->Moscow(Domodedovo)
Begin date 18 Apr 2005
Finish date 17 Sep 2005
Week days 12.4.6.
Departure time 16:15
Arrival time 18:40
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From Moscow (airport Vnukovo)
Aircompany Alania Airlines
(English version)
http://www.vnukovo-airport.ru/eng/index.html
(flight timetable in Russian)
http://www.vnukovo-airport.ru/VNK_R_OUT_F.htm
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ВЛАДИКАВКАЗ
Выполняет: ФЕ - АЛАНИЯ
ФЕ8633 .2..... 15.05 - 17.45 ЯК-42 30.04.05-09.06.05
ФЕ8633 1.34567 14.30 - 17.10 ЯК-42 10.05.05-09.06.05
ФЕ8633 1234567 10.30 - 13.10 ЯК-42 10.06.05-29.10.05
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http://beslan.ru/index.php?lang_id=1&PH ... d6202a9638
"Tragedy at Beslan"
Wow. Thank you very much :D :D
That helped alot :D Thank you.
And about that tragedy in Beslan. I know someone, who lost
two of his friend that day :cry:
It was extremely sad :(
And all my thoughts are going to people, like my friend, who lost parents or children that day.
Hiya,
I've been looking at Domodedovo's website, and I've been trying to find some prices for their flights.. but.. without any luck.
Could someone help me finding a price for a flight from Domodedovo to Vladikavkaz (beslan)
Thanks!
-Tenna
This is highly unusual. If you do know someone, why this someone doesn't take care of your adventure trip? And if you dont, how well do you think you can blend in?
Is yankee-imperialist spy, Tovarish Adoc. Is obvious that she wants to spy on Russian grade-school program. Are devloping super-duper nuclear chalk-board there.Quote:
Originally Posted by adoc
All kidding aside, all these other people are probably right. You probably shouldn't go there in the first place, but if you do you should take the train.
I do understand you would like to go, but if you are American, British whatever you will be in for a shock, and it
Domodedovo isn't an airline. It's an airport. You fly by an airline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenna
E.g. Aeroflot
www.aeroflot.com
When you look for a flight, you don't log on to an airport's website. :?
That sort so highlights to me, that you are a novice traveler and haven't got a clue what you're doing.
The British Foreign & Commonwealth Office Travel Advice advices against ALL travel to the region:
http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pag ... 3618386379
And advice against All about ESSENTIAL travel to North Ossetia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY
So it's almost a year since your decision. Did you go there, Tenna?
Rtyom, she only wrote this today. And since she is trying to book flights on the website of an airPORT, she won't be going for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenna
The first post is of May, 25, 2005. Thus, I wonder what she has been doing all this time. Maybe Tenna has been procrastinating.
I don't see why Tenna shouldn't go to Beslan. The tragedy happened a long time ago and going to Beslan appears to be as dangerous as going to any other place near Chechnya and Dagestan. Furthemore, Tenna said that she knows someone who lost two friends in Beslan. I think that going to Beslan amounts to going to, for example, Volgograd with the view to commemorating the people who died during the siege.Quote:
Originally Posted by adoc
It's inconsistency in your comparison of Volgograd and Beslan, though.
You might be right. I meant to say that lots of people still visit Volgograd to commemorate those who died in the battle. So, why shouldn't people go to Beslan to commemorate those who've died? Especially if they want to? I agree that the scale of the two calamities is different and ought not to be compared. However, my comparison is, imo, a very good example when it comes to explaining that there might be a good reason for going to Beslan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rtyom
Read this, mark the part "and Westerners are particularly targeted"Quote:
Originally Posted by ReDSanchous
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en. ... try=249000
Beslan happened less than 2 years ago. Volgograd happened 60 years ago. I doubt a place still in mourning, and the mothers and fathers will appreciate Westerners fulfilling their morbid curiosities.
Let her go wherever she wants to go, she wasn't asking our permission. She is Danish, she will whip out a couple of Mohammed drawings to mollify the locals!
My point exactly. I was just going to say it differently though: How many Germans do you still see lobbing bombs at Volgograd? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY
Just make sure you don't fly Armenian Airlines....
Then my point is: how many Chechnens do you still see dropping bombs on Beslan? Or how many explosions in Beslan have you heard of since the siege of 2004?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmaley
This crash is terrible. This is what makes many people be afraid of flying.Quote:
Just make sure you don't fly Armenian Airlines....
Это просто мне так кажется, или в СНГ одна из худших историй воздушной безопасности в мире?
Я не знаю :roll:
BTW, how would you say your sentence in English?
Does it only seem to me or the CIS countries have the worst history of air safety?
Well, what I meant to say was: ”Is it just me or does the CIS have one of the worst records of air saftey in the world"
What would be a better way to say it? :|
Я просто хотел узнать, как бы ты сказал это предложение на английском. Твоё предложение is fine.
The CIS is a huge area and has hundreds of flights everyday. In the past safety has been questionable.
You can't really generalise the whole area. On international flights into Europe and such they have to be up on safety. Like if Aeroflot were unsafe, they wouldn't be allowed to operate flights to say London. Internal flights are a different matter. But there are LOTS of internal flights. I've been on one. It was alright. Let's just say I've never seen bagage stored on empty rows of seats before.
When you're saying you've been on one internal flight - what do you mean? Do you mean that you've been on an internal flight provided by a Russian airline - that is to say, within Russia? I flew Aeroflot to London in 2004 and Aeroflot made a favorable impression on me, so I totally agree with you that airlines have to provide a high level of service to be allowed to operate external flights.
BTW, the A320 that crashed a few days ago belonged to the Armenian airline called "Armavia". Therefore, it was an external flight. Or do you mean that it was internal in terms of the CIS?
None. But the point is that it's in a region that has, and continues to, experienced quite a bit of turmoil and violent hostilities...it's the same reason you don't go to certain parts of some US cities after dark -- you're putting yourself in a really unsafe environment with no idea of what you're doing. That was my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReDSanchous
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmaley
Tenna is probably some 16 year old blonde girl from Denmark. I really dislike hysteria over travelling to "unsafe" places. Like when I was in Russia some of my friends wouldn't take an internal flight because they thought it was unsafe. It may be more unsafe than British Airways, but it doesn't mean it's going crash.
I went to Moscow during the period of terrorists attacks in 2004. It didn't bother me much. But the South Caucuses is dangerous. Any foreign place is dangerous for a novice traveller. Tenna comes across as not very travel savy.
Also I think visiting Beslan because of what happened is innapropriate.
A friend who travelled in the Caucasus, who is British told me the police were really friendly to him. Much more so than the ones in Moscow and Petersburg.
I wonder where's next on Tenna's travel itinerary?
Iraq
Gaza Strip
West Bank
Congo
Colombia
I think it will be TATY's Mordancy, England.Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY
Going anywhere to Russia is dangerous. Beslan if predominantely Russian, she wouldn't be targeted any more than if she was in Kazan. Are people here still afraid of going to New York after what happened on Sept. 2001?
[quote=ivanushki]I do understand you would like to go, but if you are American, British whatever you will be in for a shock, and it
That's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
I don't think all of Russia is dangerous. Maybe it's MORE dangerous than other places. It's not Switzerland. I think away from the Caucasus it's fine. Like my university lets us go to Volgograd. If it was dangerous they wouldn't let us go.
And Tenna Lady, the thing in London was the first fatal terrorist attack here for about 10 years.
Chechnya, and parts of surrounding areas are effectively a war zone.
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/...ra-plus-8-.jpg
How old are you anyway?
LMFAO. You are evil. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY
He teases her for the second time. ;) Anyway, It's "Te-e-e-e-ena", not "Tenna". :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmaley
Here in the UK, on TV they say it like "Тэна"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rtyom
Tell that to the terrorists, if they find out you are Danish they will use you as an example... That is why I canceled my planned trip to the Kashmir region of Pakistan this year (I am Norwegian)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenna