Thread: Why is Spanish and Catalan easier than Russian?

Originally Posted by xXHoax

In my opinion, I don't see why you'd spend time learning Catalan. It's not a common language at all, and isn't mutually intelligible with spanish. It would be doing the work of learning a completely new language, without making any distance from Spanish. By that I mean, say you learn spanish, you learn a very distinct part of the world's languages, then you could:
1. Learn Catalan, and not make any step into another style/branch of language, yet put in a lot of language learning work. +like a small country or something
2. Learn something like Russian, and have a completely different branch of language, a different worldview. +like all of eastern europe
If learning many languages, it's good to diversify, I feel, since you will then get an insight into completely different cultures, and linguistic beauty. But I suppose if you aren't fascinated by the individual beauty of the world's different languages, then that doesn't matter much. Just think, Russian is hard, it's different, but it's even still, the same writing system as English and Spanish. Different orthography (naturally), different sound system (by far, but that's common in even similar languages, look at Swedish and Norwegian- mutually intelligible, yet sound very different), but it's still a letter based system. If you learned Chinese, you'd be learning a VERY different... Everything.
Diversify your portfolio. Neither Spanish nor Catalan will help with Russian, learning another language before Russian (you've done already) is good, since Russian is on a bit of another level in terms of grammatical structures and whatnot. I couldn't imagine going into Russian without already knowing about conjugation and parts of speech, since those are just the beginning with Russian.

Geographically, I cant imagine there's anywhere where you couldn't just speak spanish to someone, and had to speak Catalan. C2 in Russian takes multiple years. At least 5, depending on if you spend 2 dedicated hours a day, or 30 nonchalant minutes a day. Text en catal Heres a page in Catalan. I can read a sentence here and there with year 2 Spanish, but it seems like it's orthographically very different to spanish. I cant think of how Russian would help at all for Catalan.

I always go to Barcelona on holiday. I more or less have B2 in Catalan already. I guess Russian would take longer to learn though. =[ I could attempt to learn both but that would be hard.

Is it harder for a Russian person to learn English, Catalan or Spanish? It would be cool to learn both but how do I learn three languages at once?

But then is it possible to get C2 in Russian without going to Russia?

Where's native?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common..._for_Languages

What is C2?

I've actually never seen this whole c2 system before. In terms of words, I've heard "I've been to spain with 2000 words in spanish, IT WAS NOT ENOUGH.". How many words are there in the world's most widely spoken languages? . Im not a russian I have no idea which is harder to learn. Id suppose English since it's stupid. I have maybe 700 words of russian... maybe 1000, and thats where I can have crappy little back and forths with people, so... As Tim Doner would tell you, theres no real reason why you CANT leanr all three at once, it's up to you. There is a man who lived in Korea for 20 years, and couldnt have a decent conversation with a native. Being in the country is nice, but not at all a necessity. Google is all you need. Google, time, paper and pencil or whatever you use to keep words in your head, and practice. Whether it be chat rooms, journal writing and correcting, posting your writing in Russian to this site, or downloading a free to play game and setting the region to Russia, interaction with natives is pretty darn important. Supposedly (from that link), 20,000 words is a natives vocab... Then again, I may know the word "deign", doesn't mean I use it.