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How do you say "головной убор" in English? It's a part of attire you wear on you head (a hat, a bonnet, anything, actually).
Eg. Индейцы носили головные уборы из перьев.
There are different words for any of these things, but how can I call them in general? And what word can I use for it if I don't know how this specific "головной убор" is called?
Headwear?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headgear
Cool! Thank you. :)
You are welcome. :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
I don't believe we have a direct translation of that, at least not in the way I remember it used when I was in Ukraine. We just call it by its name, i.e. 'hat', 'cap', 'hood', 'headscarf', etc. BTW, nobody wears bonnets anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
Yes, you could use "headgear", "headwear", or "headdress" (for tribal natives), but it would sound weird to use those terms in everyday speech. At the very least it would sound like you were trying to humorous.
If you need to be general, I would just say 'hat', which basically covers any non-specific type of head covering.
For example:
"Я никуда не иду без головного убора."
"I don't go anywhere without a hat."
Sounds a bit odd to me. I think I'd say "Я никогда не хожу без головного убора".Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
[quote=Оля]Sounds a bit odd to me. I think I'd say "Я никогда не хожу без головного убора".[/quote:3k7adsgn]Quote:
Originally Posted by "Matroskin Kot":3k7adsgn
Русское предложение пришло в голову, но английская версия не совсем точно выражает первый мысл. А ты говоришь, что вообще неестественно звучит мой русский вариант?
В первом предложении я имел в виду: "I refuse to go out without a hat." Теперь как?
Общий смысл фразы понятен, неважно, что написано в английском варианте.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
"Я никуда не иду" звучит неестественно в этом контексте. Можно было бы еще сказать "Я никогда не выхожу из дома без головного убора", но это длиннее, чем "я никогда не хожу...".
[quote=Matroskin Kot][quote="Оля":3dddis7t]Sounds a bit odd to me. I think I'd say "Я никогда не хожу без головного убора".[/quote:3dddis7t]Quote:
Originally Posted by "Matroskin Kot":3dddis7t
Русское предложение пришло в голову, но английская версия не совсем точно выражает первый мысл. А ты говоришь, что вообще неестественно звучит мой русский вариант?
В первом предложении я имел в виду: "I refuse to go out without a hat." Теперь как?[/quote:3dddis7t]
You mean, as a part of a conversation, as in
"Put that hat back and let's go."
"I refuse to go out without a hat." :?:
If so, then "Я никуда не иду без ..." is ok.
"Я никуда не пойду..." is more usual, though.
They simply have different meaning. "Я никуда не пойду..." means "I won't go without my hat!"Quote:
Originally Posted by E-learner
"Я никуда не иду без ..." still sounds strange to me... :roll:
That's exactly what I thought, that "I refuse to go" was meant as "I won't go".Quote:
Originally Posted by Оля
[quote=Оля]They simply have different meaning. "Я никуда не пойду..." means "I won't go without my hat!"Quote:
Originally Posted by "E-learner":xapxurth
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Вот теперь я вижу свою ошибку. Надо было сказать "пойду" вместо "иду". Если так, то все нормально?
А я свою. :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
:oops:Quote:
Общий смысл фразы понятен, неважно, что написано в английском варианте.
Yes, "я никуда не пойду" sounds perfect.
Can I say, "I don't go anywhere with my hair uncovered"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
And, by the way, Matroskin Kot, if you don't mind, the Russian phrase I would rather say differently, "Я никуда не хожу беэ головного убора." It just sounds more natural to my Russian ear...
Может, сначала всю тему прочитаете? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrow
Yes, absolutely. It's sounds perfectly natural from a language point of view. However, it implies that you have an unusual concern about your hair, as if you are afraid that exposing it to the elements will harm it, or ruin your hairdo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrow
You could say, "I don't go anywhere with my head uncovered." That would sound more neutral.
Бе-бе-беееееееее. :P :P :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
[quote=Оля]Бе-бе-беееееееее. :P :P :mrgreen:[/quote:dwy81woj]Quote:
Originally Posted by "Matroskin Kot":dwy81woj
Ой, я попался! :oops:
Молодец! Это было... проверка... да, точно! Проверка! И ты справилась. Хорошая работа. Только будь внимательна ведь никто не знает когда я допущу... м-м-м, вернее, устрою еще одну "проверку". :wink:
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Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
Спасибо, Кот Матроскин! :tumble:
Thank you, guys.
But what if I need to use some general word, and "hats" (or "headwear") doesn't fit? Say, there's an assembled crowd of people in various hats, turbans, headscarfs, helmets, etc. And what if I need to write a sign to the visitors which says something like: "When the bell rings please take off your ... and put it on the ground"? Will it be ok to use the word "hats" (when most of these ppl most likely have some other kind of headwear)? Would not some or the other people think that the sign doesn't apply to them?
What would you write?
In that situation, I think using the word "headwear" would be perfectly fine. Since things you mentioned like turbans wouldn't really fit well under a "hat" category, I think headwear is fine, as it encompasses any possible covering on the head. You could also say something like "Please remove your head coverings" or something of the like.
Great! Thank you, brandonp. So "headwear" will do. :)
By the way, "head covering" is a direct equivalent of Russian "головной убор" (I was not aware of its existence). But I googled it, and it seems that it's used mostly when talking about religious headwear. Is that true?
Yes, that's why I didn't suggest it in the beginning. Perhaps someone with very little religious exposure would not make that connection, but I believe most people would.Quote:
Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
Also, for your example, 'headgear' would also sound good. In fact, that was the first word that came to my mind when I pictured doing what you described. 'Headwear' is good too, but I'm not sure I would call a helmet 'headwear'. For your example, though, I don't believe it would matter either way. I don't expect the dork wearing the helmet would object. He's probably just happy to be with people. ;)
Why would you not call a helmet "headwear"? You are wearing it on your head, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
I think either is acceptable. My personal preference would be "headgear" or "protective headgear", but you will definitely see and hear "protective headwear" as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrow
To me, "gear" just seems more businesslike and functional, but that is just my opinion.
Yeah, the only difference in connotation I get from "headwear" and "headgear" is that the former seems more casual and everyday, while the latter seems more formal, or even relating more to a sports situation.
I agree with Karras and Brandon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrow
'Gear' isn't necessarily different from 'wear' by general definition, but to my ear, [something]wear is worn for style or comfort, whilst [something]gear is worn for utility or protection mainly.
The difference probably isn't so great that people would notice if you used them interchangeably, however.