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    Irregular verb conjugations?

    anyone have a way to learn irregular verb conjugations? a easier way then memorizing them... regular verb conjugations are easy... but irregular ones have me stumped to learn them...
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    hi!

    you mean irregular as in e.g. andare (whose root changes back and forth)

    indicative present
    io vado
    tu vai
    egli va
    noi andiamo
    voi andate
    essi vanno

    or some other forms of irregularity: irregular past participle, -sc- intrusion in some of the verbs in the 3rd conjugation (-ire verbs like finire: io finISCo...), -rre verbs (porre, trarre, condurre...), and other types I can't think of at the moment....

    Some of these follow a pattern, but in the case of irregular past participles I'm afraid those have to be remembered

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    many irregular verbs that don't follow a pattern like Stare... normally a ARE verb would be like :


    Io salto
    Tu salti
    lui salta
    lei salta
    Lei salta
    noi saltiamo
    voi saltate
    loro saltano

    but then you have a ARE verb that is irregular and the endings are :

    Io sto
    tu stai
    lui sta
    lei sta
    Lei sta
    Noi stiamo
    voi state
    loro stanno

    ... seems irregular verbs do not follow the o,i,a,iamo,ate,ano of Regular ARE verbs and have to be memorized instead.. this also go for the two other conjugations (Ere and Ire verbs) ....
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    yeah stare is a peculiar verb. Good thing is that it's widely used so you'll get to see/hear it all the time (for example it's used to form the "present continuous": io sto mangiando=I am eating).

    Also, stare is conjugated in the same way as dare if that's of any help
    (but not like fare which is a hybrid, in the sense that it partly follows a regular -ARE pattern and partly behaves as if it were still faCEre (old Latin form). Dire behaves similarly)

    These "big" verbs have to be memorized I'm afraid

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    ackkkk i hate memorization lol i like conjugating verbs the way Regular verbs are conjugated like Saltare...
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    Don't try to memorize them. Just start using them. The more you see, use, are exposed, the easier they will all be! And before you know it, you won't even have to think about it...
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    yeah your right... what i'll probably do is just email this girl i know in Italy with a new irregular verb i learn .. use it in sentences etc..
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    One thing I've noticed (and this is true of Spanish as well) is that the 1st person plural (noi in Italian, nosotros in Spanish) is always regular in the present indicative (and many other forms as well). Don't know if that helps at all, but there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Тостер
    One thing I've noticed (and this is true of Spanish as well) is that the 1st person plural (noi in Italian, nosotros in Spanish) is always regular in the present indicative (and many other forms as well). Don't know if that helps at all, but there you go.
    I never really noticed it and im spanish (hispanic) and speak it lol
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    It was how my high school teacher told us to remember it. He would get up on a very wobbly table and yell at us, "The 'nosotros' is the weird one!!!" He was an odd man...

    But I cite, for instance, entrar, which is a regular "-ar" verb (keep in mind that I am only listing the 'nosotros' form, and by irregular I mean "different from the present tense form):

    Presente: entramos
    Imperfecto: entr

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    Irregular verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by tdcinprc
    Don't try to memorize them. Just start using them. The more you see, use, are exposed, the easier they will all be! And before you know it, you won't even have to think about it...
    I couldn't agree more. I'm a qualified TEFL teacher and one thing I've learned is that trying to remember verbs (or any part of speech) in isolation is useless and soul destroying - learn verbs in context - make up sentences using them and you'll learn them without realising it.

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    Thank you Store.... i will try that method as well... now if i can just meet people who are fluent in Italian here in NY lol native italians preferably.... NY born who speak italian sound like they butcher the language...
    How I wish, how i wish you were here. Were just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl. Year after Year. Running over the same ground, have we found, same old fear. Wish you were here.

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