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    Столовые приборы

    Как по-английски попросить в китайском ресторане европейские приборы?
    Я-то ем палочками, а приятель хочет вилку и нож.

    В голову пока пришло "European setting".

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    Посоветовались с англичанином, постоянно живущим в Штатах, он сказал, что:
    - silverware
    - cutlery (более по-британски)
    и американизм
    - flatware

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    Если отбросить вариант "Принесите, пожалуйста, вилку и нож", то самым лучшим будет cutlery. Это единственное слово для обозначения вилок-ножей-ложек, которое я до сих пор твёрдо знала, возможно, и самое употребляемое из всех вышеназванных.

    Порывшись, как обычно, в Longman'e и на Яндекс.Лингво, понаходила вот что:

    cutlery
    [uncountable] especially British English
    knives, forks, and spoons that you use for eating and serving food [look crockery; = silverware AmE]

    crockery
    cups, dishes, plates etc
    То есть посуда для сервировки, а не кастрюли всякие.

    Если попросишь, silverware, могут подумать, что слишком многого захотел)):


    silverware

    изделия из серебра; столовое серебро

    silverware
    1 British English objects that are made of silver, for example dishes, plates, knives, forks etc
    2 American English knives, forks, and spoons that are made of silver or a similar metal

    И, наконец, flatware - это американский вариант cutlery или даже только плоские тарелки да блюдца:

    flatware[uncountable] American English
    knives, forks, and spoons [= cutlery]

    flatware
    сущ.; собир.; тж. flat-ware
    1) мелкая или плоская посуда (блюда, тарелки, блюдца и т. п.; в отличие от кастрюль, мисок, чашек, кувшинов и т. п.)
    Ant:
    hollow-ware
    2) преим. амер. столовые приборы (ножи, вилки и ложки)

    Но мне тоже интересно мнение носителей или тех, кто оказывался в подобной ситуации.)
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    In America, or at least all of the places that I've lived, 'silverware' seems to be the most common word by a large margin. And don't worry, you won't accidentally buy a $500 set of 'real' silverware, at least not in the states. A waitress seating you at the table usually says something like "I'll be right back with your silverware." We also tend to use the word even when we're in a place where the 'silverware' is plastic, though we do sometimes jokingly refer to it as 'plasticware'. I would guess that the most correct (though not the most common) term would be 'eating utensils', but I think that term would have to include a pair of chopsticks in a Chinese restaurant.

    While I'm familiar with the words 'flatware' and 'cutlery' neither one has (to me) the unambiguous meaning of "a knife, a fork, and (maybe) a spoon" like silverware does. I have no idea what you would get if you went into some little redneck diner in the Deep South and asked for cutlery.

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    Horses for courses. You'd get laughed at if you asked for silverware in the UK.

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    I have lived ALL over America and I have never noticed the word "flatware" used instead of "cutlery" I have always said "Cutlery or silverware" with no "funny looks" from anyone.
    http://www.partyamerica.com/category/pl ... cutlery.do
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    Either way, I wouldn't ask for any of the above suggestions, I'd just ask for a fork.

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    Truthfully, I had never heard of flatware until I read this thread.
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