Thread: well said against well spoked

Hi!

Does such an exclamation really exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal to the exclamation Well said!


Thank you!

Originally Posted by Leof

Hi!

Does such an exclamation really exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal to the exclamation Well said!


Thank you!

No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Originally Posted by Leof

Hi!

Does such exclamation realy exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal with the exclamation Well said!

Thank you!

In some cases you can use these expressions interchangeably. But not always. "Well spoken" can mean the same as "well said" -Chosen or expressed with aptness or propriety. (хорошо сказано!, ). However this expression is often used with another meaning. A "well spoken" person is speaking well, fittingly, or pleasingly, polite in speech.
(владеющий литературной речью; говорящий правильно; учтивый; вежливый; умеющий хорошо говорить)

Спасиб., Кот и Миланя!

Кот, brevity is sister of the talent, eh?

Originally Posted by Leof

Спасиб., Кот и Миланя!

Кот, brevity is sister of the talent, eh?

Brevity is the soul of wit.
From Shakespeare's Hamlet, 1603

Originally Posted by Leof

Спасиб., Кот и Миланья!

Кот, brevity is sister of the talent, eh?

Well said.

Or as the Bard put it:
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief.
~ Hamlet

Incidentally, "well spoken" is usually a response to a response. It means the same as "well said", but much more rarely used.

Also, a well-spoken person is used, but it should be hypenated. (-)

Originally Posted by Milanya

Originally Posted by Leof

Спасиб., Кот и Миланя!

Кот, brevity is sister of the talent, eh?

Brevity is the soul of wit.
From Shakespeare's Hamlet, 1603

Правдивость речи хороша и гладкость,
Но как прекрасна слов правдивых краткость.

Низамаддин Мир Алишер Навои, поэт
(1441-1501)


It was my piano teacher's favorite proverb.
I can't believe it's not an ancient Latin!
Wiki sais it belongs to Anton Chechov? but I am sure it was just a wide spread transformation of Shakespearean phrase.

Damn witty William!

Originally Posted by Milanya

Originally Posted by Leof

Спасиб., Кот и Миланя!

Кот, brevity is sister of the talent, eh?

Brevity is the soul of wit.
From Shakespeare's Hamlet, 1603

You beat me to it!

Well put you all!

Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot

Originally Posted by Leof

Hi!

Does such an exclamation really exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal to the exclamation Well said!


Thank you!

No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Excuse me, but "well said" it NOT the same as "well-spoken".

Firstly, "well said" is two words, and is basically part of a clause, whereas "well-spoken" in an adjective, usually used to describe a person.

You would use the phrase "well-spoken" in the following context:

well-spo·ken Audio Help /ˈwɛlˈspoʊkən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wel-spoh-kuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. speaking well, fittingly, or pleasingly: The new chairwoman was very well-spoken.
2. polite in speech: a well-spoken gentleman.
3. spoken in an apt, fitting, or pleasing manner: a few well-spoken words on civic pride.

In British English, well-spoken when said about a person generally means they have a refined / upper-class accent.

I'd say a reasonable Russian translation of "well-spoken" would be учтивый


The exclamation "Well said!" exists, obviously. But you can't say "Well spoken!" in that context; people do say it sometimes, but it's wrong.

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot

Originally Posted by Leof

Hi!

Does such an exclamation really exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal to the exclamation Well said!


Thank you!

No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Excuse me, but "well said" it NOT the same as "well-spoken".

Firstly, "well said" is two words, and is basically part of a clause, whereas "well-spoken" in an adjective, usually used to describe a person.

You would use the phrase "well-spoken" in the following context:

well-spo·ken Audio Help /ˈwɛlˈspoʊkən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wel-spoh-kuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. speaking well, fittingly, or pleasingly: The new chairwoman was very well-spoken.
2. polite in speech: a well-spoken gentleman.
3. spoken in an apt, fitting, or pleasing manner: a few well-spoken words on civic pride.

In British English, well-spoken when said about a person generally means they have a refined / upper-class accent.

I'd say a reasonable Russian translation of "well-spoken" would be учтивый


The exclamation "Well said!" exists, obviously. But you can't say "Well spoken!" in that context; people do say it sometimes, but it's wrong.

A) It's not wrong, it's just uncommon. Most people would say, "Well said." But "well spoken" means exactly the same thing and is exactly the same grammatically.
B) If you had read the rest of what I said, you would know that I already wrote about the hyphenated version, and how it is different.
C) Are you sayin' I'm a pikey?
D) I'm not bovvered.

[quote=Matroskin Kot]

Originally Posted by TATY

Originally Posted by "Matroskin Kot":1fqppprz

Originally Posted by Leof

Hi!

Does such an exclamation really exist - the words (are) well spoked?

Is it wrong? Shouldn't it be said well spoken?

Is it equal to the exclamation Well said!


Thank you!

No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Excuse me, but "well said" it NOT the same as "well-spoken".

Firstly, "well said" is two words, and is basically part of a clause, whereas "well-spoken" in an adjective, usually used to describe a person.

You would use the phrase "well-spoken" in the following context:

well-spo·ken Audio Help /ˈwɛlˈspoʊkən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wel-spoh-kuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. speaking well, fittingly, or pleasingly: The new chairwoman was very well-spoken.
2. polite in speech: a well-spoken gentleman.
3. spoken in an apt, fitting, or pleasing manner: a few well-spoken words on civic pride.

In British English, well-spoken when said about a person generally means they have a refined / upper-class accent.

I'd say a reasonable Russian translation of "well-spoken" would be учтивый


The exclamation "Well said!" exists, obviously. But you can't say "Well spoken!" in that context; people do say it sometimes, but it's wrong.

A) It's not wrong, it's just uncommon. Most people would say, "Well said." But "well spoken" means exactly the same thing and is exactly the same grammatically.
B) If you had read the rest of what I said, you would know that I already wrote about the hyphenated version, and how it is different.
C) Are you sayin' I'm a pikey?
D) I'm not bovvered.[/quote:1fqppprz]
You both stop quoting like that and for God's aquarium's sake stop arguing!

I think "well said" versus "well spoken" sounds better.