Watching The Devil's Advocate

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July 31st, 2006, 04:41 PM
Vadim84

Watching The Devil's Advocate

Yep, it’s me again watching Hollywood cra… just kidding, movies that is :lol: The subtitles now are official, without stupid mistakes but the vice practice of unnecessary shortening and rephrasing sentences continues, unfortunately. Here are some segments I don’t exactly understand.

It’s ours to lose.
If that needs a context, just say it.

- I had to bail on the party.
- You bailed on me.

- I panicked! I was panicked!
- We need 12 people who can see past all that.
- I touched the goddamn wall!
- I’d get out in front of this fast.
Is there such an expression “to see past something”?
And I don’t have a clue about the other highlighted part.
"12 people" means the jury if that helps.

I rest my case.
Again, just ask me for context if needed.

TIA.
July 31st, 2006, 05:12 PM
Vincent Tailors

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- We need 12 people who can see past all that.

Закрыть на это глаза, напрашивается само собой ^_^
July 31st, 2006, 06:07 PM
Layne

Re: Watching The Devil's Advocate

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Originally Posted by Vadim84

It’s ours to lose.
If that needs a context, just say it.
Context might help on this one. It sounds like the speaker is saying whatever 'it' is belongs to them and they have a right to risk losing it if they want to.

- I had to bail on the party.
- You bailed on me.
'bail' means leaving hastily or unexpectedly.

- I panicked! I was panicked!

-There is no K in panic. I'm sure someone can give you the russian word for it easier than I can explain it.

We need 12 people who can see past all that.
'see past' means overlook. It means you know about some potentialy troublesome thing but it doesn't bother you.

- I touched the goddamn wall!
someone touched a wall? I don't understand your issue with this sentence.

- I’d get out in front of this fast.
Context would help but it sounds like they're saying someone needs to stop a potential problem before it gets worse.

Is there such an expression “to see past something”?
And I don’t have a clue about the other highlighted part.
"12 people" means the jury if that helps.

I rest my case.
Again, just ask me for context if needed.

TIA.
July 31st, 2006, 07:45 PM
Kirschtorte

Layne's got everything pretty much right.

"I rest my case" is a term used by Lawyers to state that they have finished their argument, that they have nothing left to say, so they are putting their case to rest.
July 31st, 2006, 08:02 PM
Vadim84

Thank you very much :D

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There is no K in panic.

Well, the past tense and past participle is 'panicked', the infinitive is 'panicking'.

About the 'panic' and 'touching the wall' things - I know what it means. It was kinda context. Those four lines are a continuous dialogue. I just needed to know the bold parts.
July 31st, 2006, 10:35 PM
Layne

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Originally Posted by Vadim84

Well, the past tense and past participle is 'panicked', the infinitive is 'panicking'.

Yeah, you're right, I just though it looked funny with the K until I wrote it down and realized it wouldn't work without the K. I've probably never written those words before.

I missed the fact that some parts were in bold, sorry. I also didn't notice the "I rest my case" at the end.
August 1st, 2006, 12:52 AM
RavinDave

Re: Watching The Devil's Advocate

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Originally Posted by Vadim84

... but the vice practice of unnecessary shortening and rephrasing sentences ...

I'm guessing you mean "vile practice".
August 1st, 2006, 04:05 PM
Vadim84

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I missed the fact that some parts were in bold, sorry. I also didn't notice the "I rest my case" at the end.

No problem. That's alright :wink:

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I'm guessing you mean "vile practice".

It was cr@p. I meant "erroneous practice" :lol:
August 1st, 2006, 05:50 PM
sperk

Re: Watching The Devil's Advocate

It’s ours to lose.
If that needs a context, just say it.

Generally means someone has a commanding lead which can only be lost by a mistake of his own; the person is not threatened by the adversary's abilities. E.g. if a team is leading a football match by 3-0 with 30 mins left, a player may say, "this match is ours to lose!"

TIA.[/quote]
August 3rd, 2006, 12:16 PM
Vadim84

Funny how I said another stupid thing and nobody noticed or corrected it.

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the infinitive is 'panicking'.

The gerund (and present participle) is 'panicking'.

And thanks for your reply also, sperk. It now makes more sense and based on your words and the context in the film I'd translate "It’s ours to lose." into Russian as "Всё в наших руках."
August 3rd, 2006, 05:56 PM
sperk

Re: Watching The Devil's Advocate

- I had to bail on the party.
- You bailed on me.
'bail' means leaving hastily or unexpectedly.

bail means to leave and implies a feeling of unmet expectation or disappointment.
I had to bail on the party. (I planned on staying but I wasn't feeling well)
You bailed on me (and just left me there- what's with that?)