Slayer Rule или Rules. Кто прав-то?

Вот нашел диалог. Так и не понял как правильно.

crusader
Slayer rules!

clashman
slayer rule! not rules!

masterofpuppets
He rules, that makes Slayer Rules, idiot!

SLAYER RULES!!!\m/

clashman
no coz slayer is plural coz they are 4 people! retard!

masterofpuppets
Slayer is one person.
Slayer Rules...
The members of Slayer are 4 persons.
The members of Slayer rule...
SLAYER RULES!!!

clashman
No! you're just stupid! and even if you did count slayer as one person(which is ridiculous) it would still be rule not rules! you wouldnt say "i rules"

masterofpuppets
But your not talking about yourself, your talking about another person...

guitarboy
but you would say he rules

paramonflows
slayer is a band...
you use the plural form of rule because the band has 4 people in it.

clashman
yeh. are is plural and is is singlural! idiot

paramonflows
dude you're stupid.
is english even your first language?

clashman
are u retarded? you're actually trying to tell me that is is plural and that are is singular? i actually cant believe this!

paramonflows
no
im just trying to say
the sentence "slayer rules" is the proper way of saying... well slayer rules not "slayer rule"

clashman
no no no. thats the way most americans say it because they cant speak proper english. its slayer rule! not rules!

paramonflows
wtf im not even american
besides, have you ever heard "he rule" or "that rule"
NO
because its not how its supposed to be said.
shesh.

clashman
but slayer are a band. 4 ppl not 1!
saying "slayer rules" is like saying "they rules" it wud be they rule!

paramonflows
but the word slayer is a singular word that REPRESENTS 4 people, so thats why you say rules instead of rule

thedrummer
your an idoit. thats all im gonna say.

paramonflows
erm
can you explain to me why im an "idoit"

gamesource
You're talking about 1 band. It's singular, therefore, "rules" is correct.

clashman
no sorry! 4 ppl!

gamesource
Dude, that's like saying "America Rule The World" just because the country has more than 1 person living in it. We're talking about 1 single band, with a singular name, Slayer, Not SlayerS, Slayer. It's "rules" man, face it.

clashman
or maybe you just havta face facts that americans cannot speak the english language properly

clashman
its just the name of the band they still are for ppl. wat about band with "the" in their name? you wouldn't say the ramones rules or the ramones is great! its the exact same. its not proper english! it all comes from america. the world is too americanised these days!

paramonflows
for the ramones, you WOULD say the ramones rule, only because their band name (name that represents them) is plural.

clashman
its still the same thing man they are for ppl. weather or not the word slayer is singurlar on not simmes the point that we're still talking about four ppl. its not correct english to talk about a band as singular!sure the word "band" is plural!

paramonflows
i guess you might be right
its just.. saying slayer rules instead of slayer rule just feels/sounds better to say. thats all

clashman
it is pretty much a pointless arguement. and ur right in 1 thing. paramon are shit!

paramonflows
lol yeh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... v358.shtml

Ага, спасибо. Я нашел это в книжке. Но вроде американцы утверждают, что это неправильно.

It's one of the differences between BrEng and AmEng. In AmEng singular collective nouns always take singular agreement, while in BrEng they can take either singular or plural depending on context, as explained on that BBC page.

Either way, Slayer is not that great.

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

Either way, Slayer is not that great.

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Surely you mean 'Slayer are not that great'.

В целом понятно. На том форуме либо необразованные, либо школьники, либо необразованные школьники.

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Originally Posted by scotcher

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Originally Posted by xRoosterx

Either way, Slayer is not that great.

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Surely you mean 'Slayer are not that great'.

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Sure. But, just the same, you can't disagree.