Thread: С, Из, От

Are you a confused newcommer who doesn't know when / how to use С, Из\ От.

Well fear no more. I'm here to clear it up for you.

It's very simple when you learn the rules.

First, and probly most simple/ logical = Из.

this is when you are actually comming from inside of a place. Wether it be a country, a building, a town center, a city, your mom, or a space shuttle.

You use из. Some examples.

Он приехал из чечни. He came from Chechnya.
Я из москвы, но родился в казахстане. I came from moscow, but i was born in Kazakhstan.
Если ты русский, ты из россии (а ураинец, ты с украины )
If you're russian, you're from Russia.

Second, С. C Is also from a place, but not necesarrily a certain place.

For example. "War, Work, The sea, A tree".

While these things take place, maybe in a country or an area, there is no real "boundry" to where a war, or work, or anythign else of the sort could end. So, you use С in these instances.

Ветер с моря дул - The wind blew from the sea.
Подали звёзды с неба - Stars fell from the sky
моя мама пришла неожиданно с работы- my mom came home unexpectedly from work.
Он венулся с войны... приехал из Чечни. He returned from war... he came from chechnya.

Lastly, От. This is when you don't actually go "into" a place, or thing, but you get right up to it, and then return. For example, you go "от" a person, or maybe things you can't measure, like pain, suffering.

Я взял мяч от него - Took the ball from him.
Он умер от боли и неудач - He died from pain and bad luck.
Угадай - это письмо от кого ? Guess who this letter is from!


And that's all there is too it.

GG all.

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

а ураинец, ты с украины

Адназначна!

Ветер с моря дул. лучше: Ветер дул с моря
Подали звёзды с неба Падали ...
Он венулся с войны... Вернулся
Я взял мяч от него Я взял мяч у него

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Он приехал из чечни.
Я из москвы, но родился в казахстане.

Чечня и Казахстан пишутся с большой буквы, а чеченец и казах с маленькой.

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Если ты русский, ты из россии (а ураинец, ты с украины )

Если ты русский, то ты из России, а если (ты) ураинец, то с Украины.

Если ты русский - ты из России; если украинец - с Украины.

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Я взял мяч от него

Я взял мяч у него.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Ветер с моря дул. лучше: Ветер дул с моря

"Как лучше" зависит от ситуации. Тем более если ветер дует с Балтийского моря.

Originally Posted by BETEP

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Он приехал из чечни.
Я из москвы, но родился в казахстане.

Чечня и Казахстан пишутся с большой буквы, а чеченец и казах с маленькой.

А москва как бы правильно написана? :)

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Are you a confused newcommer who doesn't know when / how to use С, Из\ От.

Well fear no more. I'm here to clear it up for you.

It's very simple when you learn the rules.

First, and probly most simple/ logical = Из.

this is when you are actually comming from inside of a place. Wether it be a country, a building, a town center, a city, your mom, or a space shuttle.
...

And what about
from pity - из жалости
or
from compassion - из сострадания

I guess it would be incorrect to say
from [inside of a ] pity/compassion
but nevertheless in russian transation there should be 'из'

What do you think?

Dogboy, that's a start, but it's more complicated than that, I'd give you details except I can't find my Wade right now. But на стадион, почту, завод, фабрику. Big things at least originally that occupy a large area (post offices had stalls, horses). OTOH в университет, институте. Go figure. Wade has a list of the на/с words.

кстати, ты уже так хорошо знаешь русский язык, что я бы рекомендовал покупку этого солидного учебника, хотя догорой.

wait. 1) why is it у него.

and 2) omfg i dont care about capitalization. leet h4x plz thanx.

And sure, there are some crazy из / от mix ups, but alot of the time they come from like "helping verbs" like "to depend on" is "зависеть от" (i think that's what they told me in my russian 1337 top secret school coursebook.

Подали звёзды с неба Падали ...
Он венулся с войны... Вернулся

Obviously typo's.

Ветер с моря дул. лучше: Ветер дул с моря

I got it from that one song by Натали

"Ветер с моря дул, Ветер с моря. Нагонял беду Нагонял, и сказал ты мне, и сказал ты мне. больше не приду. больше не приду
... Видно мне судьба, видно нет любви, наварное надо мной, посмеялся ты..." You know how it goes... Anyways, it was the first thing that popped into my head, sorry -((

(Btw if it wasn't for russian songs i wouldn't even be here)

кстати, ты уже так хорошо знаешь русский язык, что я бы рекомендовал покупку этого солидного учебника, хотя догорой.

едва. Я ещё sux. but thanks. (unless u were talkin to someone else.)

Originally Posted by alexei

А москва как бы правильно написана?

Ну извини... Масква - это правильно.

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

wait. 1) why is it у него.

I don't know why exactly, but it is a fact. May be it's a kinda exception like "с Украины".

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

and 2) omfg i dont care about capitalization. leet h4x plz thanx.

ЗРЯ

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

"helping verbs" like "to depend on" is "зависеть от"

btw, what do you think about "it depends from"?

Remember them in pairs: НА-С и В-ИЗ

идти на почту-идти с почты
идти в школу - идти из школы

приехать в Москву-уехать из Москвы
приехать на Кавказ - уехать с Кавказа

I believe, it's a strict rule

Originally Posted by BETEP

Originally Posted by alexei

А москва как бы правильно написана? :)

Ну извини... Масква - это правильно. :lol:

Да мне всё-равно, просто интресно стало почто москвичей обидел :)

Originally Posted by Indra

Remember them in pairs: НА-С и В-ИЗ

идти на почту-идти с почты
идти в школу - идти из школы

приехать в Москву-уехать из Москвы
приехать на Кавказ - уехать с Кавказа

I believe, it's a strict rule

Yeah, it's just a simple rule. As I was taught:

If you В-it to get there, you ИЗ-it to leave it,
If you НА-it to geth there, you С-it to leave it,
If you К-it to get there, you ОТ-it to leave it.

Always worked well for me!

Originally Posted by alexei

Да мне всё-равно, просто интресно стало почто москвичей обидел

Почему же только москвичей!? Про жигулей и запорожцев я тоже ничего не сказал.

Originally Posted by BETEP

Originally Posted by alexei

Да мне всё-равно, просто интресно стало почто москвичей обидел :)

Почему же только москвичей!? Про жигулей и запорожцев я тоже ничего не сказал. :lol:

Но с маленькой буквы только Москва была написана :)

I know that "P" is like english "R" and "4" is like "CH"

is there any others that are similars?
I mainly need to know words like "I"
"and" "when" words that combine words together.

Ps how do I choose my advatar?

Originally Posted by Sir Krist

Ps how do I choose my advatar?

Go to your profile,at the bottom click on "show gallery"

Originally Posted by Sir Krist

I know that "P" is like english "R" and "4" is like "CH"

is there any others that are similars?
I mainly need to know words like "I"
"and" "when" words that combine words together.

Ps how do I choose my advatar?

You shouldn't think of it like that, or only pay attention to the easiest ones to remember. You should just get past the ones that are easy, like K and T, and focus on the ones that are less obvious, like Я and Ю, so you get used to them. I've been reading Russian stories, (though I can't really understand them), but they get you used to remembering at first glance how to pronounce the letter. There's a page on this very site that has a big list of useful words like pronouns. I'm pretty sure it's in the vocabulary section, maybe in the "everyday vocabulary" or something. If it's not there, just look around int he vocab section. There's one with pronouns, colors, days, months, numbers, that kind of thing. That'll get you started.

As far as I understand, "с" is used almost universally in R1 ("low" Russian) as "из"