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I've got their CD. It's called ребята нашего полка. What does this mean? Guys in our 'bench'? some kind of army slang?
And любэ itself? Does that mean something?
The first song is Луговая трава (great song by the way). 'meadow grass' or something. And then it talks about Луговые вёрсты and Фронтовые вёрсты .. yandex translates вёрсты as 'versts' but I have no idea what that means. Anyone?
"солдат", между прочим, очень хорошая песня! третьи сутки в пути.. :)
"полка" is genitive from "полк" which means "regiment". So it means "guys of our regiment".Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
Верста(pl. вёрсты) is a length unit (= 3500 ft.).Quote:
And then it talks about Луговые вёрсты and Фронтовые вёрсты .. yandex translates вёрсты as 'versts' but I have no idea what that means. Anyone?
I think, it's an abridgement of Люберцы (town by Moscow). 'Атас! Берегись рабочий клас*' is popped in my mind every time when somebody says Любэ. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
*- it was a song from their first album.
"Глеб Жеглов и Володя Шарапов...." :wink: It's one of those songs I haven't heard in forever but still remember the words to!Quote:
Originally Posted by BETEP
I really like Любэ's song "Ты неси меня, река"
Is the the CD that has the song После войны ? I have that song... it's pretty good, but not entirely my style.
Yeah that's the one.
Also has 'берёзы' ("отчего так в росии берёзы шумят...") which they used in some TV series or other. I think you could say that their music 'lacks a hard edge' but it's an interesting blend of modern pop/rock with Russian folk or whatever you call it.
I hated Любэ when they starded about 15 years ago because their songs were so stuped but now I think their lirics are much better and they are one of the best.
As Nikolay Rastorguyev said in some interview, the name of this bandQuote:
Originally Posted by BETEP
was both inspired by "Люберцы" (yes, old industrial Moscow suburb where most of them were born) and by ukrainean word "любе" -- "likely" (or "liking"?)
Thanks for the info Scorpio.
OK I'm trying to translate the lyrics to 'Soldat'. Now I'm not doing very well :) More than half of what I wrote here is prob. just wrong. Any help please?
In particular, what is пpёт? I can't find it in any dictionaries.
Тpетьи сyтки в пyти, ветеp, камни, дожди,
The third day on the road, wind, stones and rain
Всё впеpёд и впеpёд, pота пpёт наша, пpёт
Always ahead and ahead, our company ???
Тpетьи сyтки в пyти, слышь, бpаток, не гpyсти
Third day on the road, listen, brother, don’t be sad
Ведь пpиказ есть пpиказ, знает каждый из нас.
Orders are just orders, every one of us knows it
Hапишите письмецо, нет его доpоже для бойцов,
Write a letter, nothing is dearer for a soldier (? this looks wrong from the grammar, but I can't figure it out)
Hапишите паpy слов вы девчата для своих пацанов.
Girls, write a couple of words for your lads ?(is 'девчата' something to do with 'girls'? I'm just guessing from the root)
Пpипев (2 pаза):
И на pассвете впеpёд yходит pота солдат
And at dawn the company of soldiers marches out
Уходит, чтоб победить и чтобы не yмиpать
Marches out to win, and not to die
Ты дай им там пpикypить, товаpищ стаpший сеpжант
You let them light up (a cig) there, officer (I prefer ‘officer’ to ‘tovarisch senior sergeant’)
Я веpю в дyшy твою солдат, солдат, солдат
I believe in you in my heart soldier, soldier, soldier (‘dusha’ is soul, but is usually used in the same context as ‘heart’ in English)
Тpетьи сyтки в пyти, ветеp, камни, дожди
The third day on the road, wind, stones and rain
Hа pассвете нам в бой, день начнётся стpельбой.
At dawn we are in the battle?, the day starts with shooting
Тpетьи сyтки в пyти, кто бы знал что нас ждёт,
The third day on the road, who would have known what awaits us
Тpетьи сyтки в пyти и pассвет настаёт.
The third day on the road, and the dawn comes.
Hапишите письмецо как живет там наш pодимый дом?
Write a letter how is life there at home ??
Из далёка-далека пpинесyт его мне облака.
From far, far away the clouds bring it to me(?)
И на pассвете впеpёд yходит pота солдат
Пpипев (2 pаза) и потом...
Падала земля, с неба падала земля
Разpывая кpик в небе "Падла ты, война!"
Плавилась бpоня, захлебнyлся автомат
Заглянyл в глаза ты смеpти, гваpдии сеpжант!
The infinitive is "переть" (there's a touch of rudness in this word), it means to go (move) usually obstinately or blindly, often through some obstacles (snow, rain, for example); in my dictionary it's translated as "trudge"Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
Wouldn't "forward and forward" be better here or is it the same?Quote:
Всё впеpёд и впеpёд, pота пpёт наша, пpёт
Always ahead and ahead, our company ???
Doesn't "just" indicate that the orders are not very important, if it is so, then it's wrong because the part of the sentence means that orders are important (something like "orders are orders and should be followed")Quote:
Ведь пpиказ есть пpиказ, знает каждый из нас.
Orders are just orders, every one of us knows it
You got it quite right.Quote:
Hапишите письмецо, нет его доpоже для бойцов,
Write a letter, nothing is dearer for a soldier (? this looks wrong from the grammar, but I can't figure it out)
Yes, it's colloquial and you can translate it as "girls".Quote:
Hапишите паpy слов вы девчата для своих пацанов.
Girls, write a couple of words for your lads ?(is 'девчата' something to do with 'girls'? I'm just guessing from the root)
I think that "дай им там пpикypить" is used idiomatically here and it means "don't let them be idle, let them work hard".Quote:
Ты дай им там пpикypить, товаpищ стаpший сеpжант
You let them light up (a cig) there, officer (I prefer ‘officer’ to ‘tovarisch senior sergeant’)
"dusha" here refers to the soul of a souldier, the author believes in souldier's soulQuote:
Я веpю в дyшy твою солдат, солдат, солдат
I believe in you in my heart soldier, soldier, soldier (‘dusha’ is soul, but is usually used in the same context as ‘heart’ in English)
will bring.Quote:
Из далёка-далека пpинесyт его мне облака.
From far, far away the clouds bring it to me(?)
Everything else is very good, waxwing.
Your intervention is timely, Friendy, as I want to send home a package to my brother which will include some of this music. I wanted to explain the lyrics to him :)
An excellent explanation (your use of 'obstinate' and 'blind' is quite appopriate). Trudge implies effort and weariness, however in English it is not rude at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
The difference is not very significant, however neither are very natural in English. There is also 'forwards' as well as 'forward'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
I understood the meaning, and I understand your correction. I was aiming for that sense of 'shrug your shoulders, there's nothing you can do to change it'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
One could totally avoid direct translation and choose a phrase like 'Orders are orders and there's nothing you can do about it'.
Yes, it's colloquial and you can translate it as "girls".Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
I think that "дай им там пpикypить" is used idiomatically here and it means "don't let them be idle, let them work hard".Quote:
Ты дай им там пpикypить, товаpищ стаpший сеpжант
You let them light up (a cig) there, officer (I prefer ‘officer’ to ‘tovarisch senior sergeant’)
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Really? That's interesting! So the meaning is that the sergeant shouldn't let them be lazy? Ah is it like 'light them up' -> put a fire into them or something?
An amusing spelling mistake there Friendy :lol: And yes of course it's the soldier's soul, not the singer's :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
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Originally Posted by Friendy
Cheers. Still don't get the last bit .. what is падла? And why is he talking about the earth falling on the sky or something? :lol:
To me it didn't seem natural either. What about "Our company marches on and on" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
I understood the meaning, and I understand your correction. I was aiming for that sense of 'shrug your shoulders, there's nothing you can do to change it'. [/quote:2u7cc1nj]Quote:
Doesn't "just" indicate that the orders are not very important, if it is so, then it's wrong because the part of the sentence means that orders are important (something like "orders are orders and should be followed")Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
I see now.
How interesting things can be, this very phrase came to my mind too, I was even going to write it instead of "orders are orders and should be followed" but somehow the latter won. :)Quote:
...'Orders are orders and there's nothing you can do about it'.
I think that "дай им там пpикypить" is used idiomatically here and it means "don't let them be idle, let them work hard".Quote:
[quote:2u7cc1nj][quote:2u7cc1nj]Ты дай им там пpикypить, товаpищ стаpший сеpжант
You let them light up (a cig) there, officer (I prefer ‘officer’ to ‘tovarisch senior sergeant’)
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Really? That's interesting! So the meaning is that the sergeant shouldn't let them be lazy? Ah is it like 'light them up' -> put a fire into them or something?[/quote:2u7cc1nj]
More like "put them into a fire" :lol: Maybe the phrase "don't make their life easy" expresses the meaning better. There's also another expression "дай им понюхать пороха" with similar meaning.
An amusing spelling mistake there Friendy :lol: [/quote:2u7cc1nj]Quote:
"dusha" here refers to the soul of a souldier, the author believes in souldier's soulQuote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
:lol: Wow, I made it even twice. :lol: I love those mistakes.
It's a swear-word.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxwing
"Падла ты, война!" = "War, you are b*tch"
the earth was falling from the sky (I wonder if it's just allegorical or they meant the pieces soil)Quote:
And why is he talking about the earth falling on the sky or something? :lol: