"Can have" was never questioned. "Would have" is a different story. Entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
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"Can have" was never questioned. "Would have" is a different story. Entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
since you don't drink coffee bad manners, how do you know what is or isn't good coffee?
I said almost. Because it is hard to have good coffee routinely. Machine-made coffee is not good for my taste, and making it manually takes a lot of skill, skill that I do not possess (because of this circular problem). So drinking coffee means, for me, an expedition to one of the few coffee shops that make good coffee. I do not think it is different for most of the Americans. But since they drink "coffee" by the gallon, many times a day, that should indicate something about its quality.
The situation in Greece and Turkey is different because good coffee is made just about everywhere.
Who told you Americans drink coffee "by the gallon, many times a day?"
Inferior? Now, that's the term only and idiot would use. No, no, no. It would be absurd to claim that. But what can I say, we just happen to love their funny little ways, don't we, Friendy? It must be a lot of fun for some - sitting on their roost in cowboy clobber drinking demigalons of coffee by the tasse and educating the dirty peasants in rural Russia about labour saving devices invented by blue-eyed and fair-haired once vikings but now just yokels in the land of stinking herring and polar bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
For all of you who want to look and act like REAL Americans (or should I say VM's fantasy of all Americans) go to www.cowboy.com
And to drink coffee just like an American go to www.arbucklecoffeetraders.com But you need to put on a ten gallon hat and call all your friends "Buckeroo" every time you drink a cup of cowboy joe. :lol: :lol: :lol:
My fantasy of all Americans? I don't have fantasies about Americans. I don't have fantasies about individual Americans to say nothing about the whole population of the US. It is you who has fantasies. You think that the whole world has fantasies about you and your fellow countrymen. Well, we don't. Besides, I don't want to look or act like "real" Americans. I don't even want to act or look like "unreal" Americans. I look like a million $$$, I act like the most prolific casanova that's ever lived, what else would a chap want? JB, please make your point or they might think you cannot think straight when I'm around.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
VM, you are such an old sleeze. You spend so much time trying to convince us that you really are a "hot stud" with the under 25 crowd. But you are completely out of it when it comes to fashion and trends that everyone younger than middle age is into. Before you make your next clueless post, get out of your apartment and take a walk in the city center. American style is everywhere in St Petersburg and in Moscow.
That's because you obviously have a bad case of Alzheimers and need to be reminded of this simple truth every now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Wrong. I'm very much into it. Thing is, we have different perceptions of fashion. To you fashion is being on the same wavelength with the sheeple, to me it's about demonstrating my individuality.Quote:
But you are completely out of it when it comes to fashion and trends that everyone younger than middle age is into.
Oh really? How can you be so sure it's not the other way round - St Pete and Moscow style has finally reached your shores?Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Last time I checked, I could not see three hundred kilogram piles of stale fat in wheelchairs chewing a double cheeseburger (eleventh for the day, flushed with 0% fat cholesterol free organically grown coke) anywhere in Moscow or Saint Petersburg. That’s probably why I cannot see XXXX…L T-shirts and pants that would make a bark envy. And what is left of the American style with these two quintessential pieces removed? Baseball caps?Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Well now we know that bad manners doesn't live anywhere near Moscow, or maybe doesn't go anywhere near teenagers. Baseball caps and McDonalds are on every corner. OH WAIT! I'm American and don't know ANYTHING about Russia!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/ ... 200065.jpg
What's so American about the lads in the picture?
I take it you do go near the kind of teenagers I pictured in my previous post. I am glad I am not near you.
Well, I'm pretty sure that blue jeans, hoodies that say "SBZ," and baseball caps are not, in fact, traditional Russian garb.Quote:
Originally Posted by bad manners
Like I said, baseball caps are all that remains of the "American Style". Blue jeans can hardly be considered "American Style" these days. And if you go nitpicking, I shall mention the city of Nimes and fustian of Genoa branded as "jean".
And what of SBZ?
Were jeans originally American? I think of jeans as American style, though many people in different countries wear them too.
Sure there're not. Russian style is kosovorotka, kirzachi, vatnik and ushanker. Kids have always worn jeans, hoodies (which we call kenguru by the way) and baseball caps, even when I was their age. American style my @rse! Yet another proof that you know ...k all about Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Линдзи
Here's a photo of me from 1990.
http://www.eastnwest.com/Shirts/george.jpg
In 1991 American fashion was officially welcomed into the country and we started to dress differently.
And are they traditional American garb? Did Fenimore Cooper characters sport baseball caps? I'm pretty sure they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Линдзи
In 1873 Levi Strauss invented blue jeans in California.
Levi Strauss, right... Has it ever occurred to you that 'levi strauss' is the Russian for 'left ostrich'? Next time you decide to tell a fib, plan it out better.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
P.S. So, how does it feel, having to go :wall: for the second time this week? Yippeeee! :bouncing:
Maybe now VM is doing this too... :wall:
Thanks, Friendy.
And 126 years after, when Algore invented the Internet, did that happen in California, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
VendingMachine and bad manners--
What is going on? Either you two guys drink too much and bring it all here, or you are just plain antisocial. Give it a rest.
I suppose you think you are contributing something useful to us learners -- but I'm getting nothing. What do you imagine you are contributing to this site, anyway? Why are you bothering to spend your time here? You must want something, but what is it?
I do not like reading your posts the way you speak nastily to people, and I would like you guys to settle down and converse in a less confrontative way. I'm sure you both have a lot that I could learn, but you rarely show me any of it. I'm looking forward to some language insights from you guys.
C уважением,
Давид
Американец.
VM, jeans seriously were invented by Levi Strauss in California during the gold rush there. His name is pronounced Leev-eye, and whether or not they were simultaneously created elsewhere I do not know.
Oh? Since when is a wikipedia article considered to be a proof of anything? Those people will stop at nothing and setting up a web page is easier than falling off a log. (BTW, log files can also be fabricated)Quote:
Originally Posted by TiaraNEug
Mr Chaika, sir, I would like you to kindly refrain from telling me what I should and what I shouldn't do. No one's forcing you to read our discussions, let alone participate in them. May I remind you that this isn't exactly a language learning thread - in this thread we talk about the Russian history and culture. The good ol' if you can't stand the heat, get the .... out of the kitchen rule applies here.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaika
I suggest you seek for that kind of knowledge in appropriate threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaika
Well, they may have fooled you, but they didn't fool me - I can pronounce левый when I see it written down, thank you very much. I don't care where jeans were "invented", all I know is that since левый was invented in Russia, jeans most certainly are a Russian invention. And here's even more proof jeans were invented in Russia by a Russian - guess what the Russian for jeans is? Джинсы! Джинсы, ladies and gentlemen! You shamelessly borrowed (well, more like stole) the word from our language. What they did invent in the US is cowboy pants - ковбойские портки in Russian or cowboybukser in Danish. Is it my fault that you apparently can't tell jeans from cowboy pants?Quote:
Originally Posted by smartdude
Absolutely correct. Hence the well known (to linguists) and unique triple-false plural 'jeansies'.
You don't like our sources? No problem. We have others, more reputable :) and what's more they are Russian:Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
http://www.megabook.ru/bes_98/encyclop. ... 1%FB#srch0
Nothing will ever prevent certain people with some extra cash on their hands from bending the truth to satisfy their vanity. They buy newspapers to brainwash entire nations - what's paying a hacker to change a few words on a webpage for them? I bet they use banknotes of higher denomination to wipe their butts in the loo than what they paid the megabook's sysadmin for his silence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
Friendy, I always thought you were one of us, rather than one of them. I'm very disappointed, Friendy, I really am.
I'm really sorry for disappointing you but I've always been one of myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by VendingMachine
:lol: Friendly I would like to invite you for coffee (I think this thread was originally about drinking) when I return to Moscow!
Would anyone explain how jeans were seriously invented in America if that highly reputable wikipedia says:
[i]Jeans were invented in Genoa, Italy when that city was an independent Republic, and a naval power. The first jeans were made for the Genoese Navy because it required an all-purpose pant for its sailors that could be worn wet or dry, and whose legs could easily be rolled-up to wear swabbing the deck and for swimming. These jeans would be laundered by dragging them in large mesh nets behind the ship, and the sea water would bleach them white. The first denim came from (french:de) N
Remember what I was saying about people with money always getting what they want only a few posts away? I only hope Friendy, that she bribes you with something respectable...Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
P.S. Any chance of JB visiting St Pete with her world famous nautical buffet?
Thank you heartily, JB :), but unfortunately I'm one of those people who don't like coffee.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB
Friendy, I like your style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friendy
Thank you, Линдзи. :)
Krugovaya poruka... :-( :-( :-(
:roll:
She said blue jeans-which is correct. VM, you can look it up anywhere you want. Almost any document will say the same thing. So there are a million little hackers going around changing history becauuuuse....they have nothing better to do? Mmm. I don't think so. You've got to give Americans a little more credit. For such an old man, you are not very wise. Personally, I don't think you have any idea how ignorant you sound. All you are doing is coming up with ridiculous excuses why you are right and taking us all back to the days of elementary school. Honestly, someone your age really ought to grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by JB