My family name is Кузнетсов, is that quite common in russia?
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My family name is Кузнетсов, is that quite common in russia?
Yes, quite common, only it's written like this: Кузнецов.
I checked, it's the 5th common last name in Russia.
This is the top 5:
1. Ivanov (who would have guessed? :roll: :D )
2. Smirnov
3. Vasiliev
4. Petrov
5. Kuznecov
Not only in Russia, but in many countries there are similiar surnames, for example 'Smith'... AFAIK it is one of the most common family name in the world :)
I add also Sidorov. We have lots of jokes naming these three: Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov. As for the English equivalents I could only think up of 'Tom, Dick and Harry'. :roll:Quote:
1. Ivanov (who would have guessed? )
2. Smirnov
3. Vasiliev
4. Petrov
5. Kuznecov
I don't see Sidorov on this list...
1 Иванов (Ivanov) 5,043,000
2 Смирнов (Smirnov) 3,419,000
3 Васильев (Vasilev) 2,464,000
4 Петров (Petrov) 2,310,000
5 Кузнецов (Kyznetsov) 2,048,000
6 Федоров (Fedorov) 1,648,000
7 Михайлов (Mikhailov) 1,609,000
8 Соколов (Sokolov) 1,484,000
9 Павлов (Pavlov) 1,437,000
10 Семенов (Semenov) 1,350,000
11 Степанов (Stepanov) 1,267,000
12 Егоров (Egorov) 1,253,000
13 Николаев (Nikolaev) 1,212,000
14 Козлов (Kozlov) 1,183,000
15 Попов (Popov) 1,178,000
16 Лебедев (Lebedev) 1,175,000
17 Яковлев (Yakovlev) 1,158,000
18 Волков (Volkv) 1,145,000
19 Григорьев (Grigorev) 1,069,000
20 Морозов (Morozov) 1,047,000
21 Новиков (Novikov) 1,034,000
22 Никитин (Nikitin) 1,014,000
23 Дмитриев (Dmitriev) 951,000
24 Кузьмин (Kuzmin) 892,000
25 Александров (Aleksandrov) 878,000
26 Зайцев (Zaitsev) 840,000
27 Захаров (Zakharov) 822,000
28 Богданов (Bogdanov) 796,000
29 Воробьев (Vorobev) 767,000
30 Белов (Belov) 729,000
31 Баранов (Baranov) 713,000
32 Филиппов (Filippov) 706,000
33 Тимофеев (Timofeev) 692,000
34 Ефимов (Efimov) 677,000
35 Борисов (Boricov) 674,000
36 Ильин (Ilin) 663,000
37 Киселев (Kiselev) 654,000
38 Фролов (Frolov) 627,000
39 Сорокин (Sorokin) 590,000
40 Голубев (Golubev) 581,000
41 Поляков (Polyakov) 579,000
42 Осипов (Osipov) 573,000
43 Ковалев (Kovalev) 536,000
44 Тарасов (Tarasov) 528,000
45 Беляев (Belyaev) 501,000
46 Герасимов (Gerasimov) 499,000
47 Миронов (Mironov) 485,000
48 Мельников (Melnikov) 483,000
49 Абрамов (Abramtsov) 466,000
50 Журавлев (Zhuravlev) 455,000
51 Власов (Vlasov) 454,000
52 Титов (Titov) 453,000
53 Данилов (Danilov) 443,000
54 Коваленко (Kovalenko) 437,000
55 Назаров (Nazarov) 426,000
56 Карпов (Karpov) 422,000
57 Денисов (Denisov) 404,000
58 Тихонов (Tikhonov) 398,000
59 Савельев (Savelev) 389,000
60 Громов (Gromov) 386,000
61 Тихомиров (Tikhomirov) 384,000
62 Фомин (Fomin) 367,000
63 Щербаков (Shcherbakov) 367,000
64 Анисимов (Anisimov) 335,000
65 Ермаков (Ermakov) 335,000
66 Чистяков (Chistyakov) 335,000
67 Быков (Bykov) 329,000
68 Леонов (Leonov) 327,000
69 Воронин (Voronin) 318,000
70 Игнатьев (Ignatev) 304,000
71 Евдокимов (Evdokimov) 301,000
72 Архипов (Arkhipov) 300,000
73 Чернов (Chernov) 299,000
74 Беляков (Belyakov) 290,000
75 Пономарев (Ponomarev) 283,000
76 Филатов (Filatov) 283,000
77 Прохоров (Prokhorov) 265,000
78 Воронов (Voronov) 264,000
79 Колесников (Kolesnikov) 257,000
80 Климов (Klimov) 255,000
81 Логинов (Loginov) 254,000
82 Савин (Savin) 254,000
83 Нестеров (Nesterov) 248,000
84 Демидов (Demidov) 247,000
85 Лобанов (Lobanov) 244,000
86 Аксенов (Aksenov) 243,000
87 Лукин (Lukin) 240,000
88 Белоусов (Belousov) 229,000
89 Спиридонов (Spiridonov) 227,000
90 Юдин (Yudin) 226,000
91 Акимов (Akimov) 217,000
92 Суворов (Suvorov) 217,000
93 Ларионов (Larionov) 216,000
94 Лукьянов (Lukanov) 214,000
95 Ушаков (Ushakov) 207,000
96 Петренко (Petrenko) 206,000
97 Бирюков (Biryukov) 204,000
98 Хохлов (Khokhlov) 204,000
99 Филимонов (Filimonov) 202,000
100 Чернышев (Chernyshev) 200,000
I believe "Chang" is the most common familyname in the world...:)
Chang aka Smith
So what does Кузнецов mean?
Actually, "Wong", I guess :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasper May
Кузнецов goes from "кузнец" which means "smith". :D
Wouldn't be surprised if Chang or Wong actually meant 'smith' as well.:)
al,
The most common surname in the world is Chang. So you were wong, er i mean "wrong". :D
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by piehunt
Hmm here in Vancouver the most common surname among the Chinese is 'Wong' :) BTW, it means 'King'.
There may be many millions of Changs, but they're mostly concentrated in China, so that's kind of inaccurate. Technically the most common language in the world is Mandarin Chinese, but good luck being understood with that when you go to Europe, Africa, the Americas, Middle East, most of Asia....
Китайский командир:
— В случае попадания в окружение к русским сдаваться следует небольшими группами — не более двух миллионов человек…
Kinda funny. My last name is Russian, and it is actually Мальчик. Yes I know it means boy. We spell it Malchick in English. There are soem Malchicks in New York, but we live in Chicago. They have no relation to us. [/code]
"King" in Chenese will be Wang, not Wong.
There is Мальчик family name in Russia, I heard this somewhere.
And what about Wong then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Propp
I wander if thats where the name for Smirnoff vodka originated from?Quote:
2. Smirnov
Of course it is.
Quote:
Of course it is.
You said that as if it were obvious :).
Well, it is kinda, isn't it?
That was sort of my point.
How can I make this damned machine express irony? :x
In fact, it was because of your smiley I guessed that you weren't being sarcastic at all, but that you were smiling because you found it amusing that I thought such a farfetched thing obvious. Which you didn't of course, and as you actually meant what you said in the first sentence, you was being in a way doubly sarcastic...
:?: :roll:
When people meet me in person, they tell me I have an ambivalent air. Same goes for my computer manner, clearly. I should have said :wink: , rather than :) , shouldn't I?
I have a lot to learn. Perhaps I should just lay off the little yellow chaps for a while.
'King' in Chinese is Wong or Wang depending on how you are transliterating it. Although there are fixed systems for transliteration, most Chinese immigrants didn't know the systems and ended up writing whichever sounded right to them: Wong, Wang. This is also why you have Changs and Chengs, Chans and Chens. You know Chinese too, Propp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Propp
I'm trying to study it, but I haven't got much incentive. Anyway, there are no official systems were Wang would be Wong. Only among the illiterate Chinese immigrants may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
Illiterate Chinese immigrants may also constitute my ancestors who have transliterated their name as "Wong" :wink: although they are now rich businessmen in Bangkok. There are many dialects of Chinese where it indeed sounds more like Wong. For example, most of the Chinese immigrants to Thailand speak what is called Dtha-Jiu dialect. I don't even know how to transliterate it myself, but they assure me it is pronounced more like "Wong" in this dialect.
Propp, you should learn Chinese(Mandarin, I presume?) Really it will be very good. You and I will travel to Nanking together. Yes? :lol: And you will be able to offer English-Russian-Chinese translating services, think of the opportunity! Such a trip is good example of "русское зарубежье." We can write a joint manuscript of our amazing adventure in China.
I imagine the tone system must be hard for you! Are you learning the characters too? You know, I have a very excellent book which teaches the meaning of each of the root radicals and how they are combined into a whole to form characters...
The tone system is not hard, although I didn't try to comunicate with a real Chinese. I think I should try to though... there are many of them at markets here. Any good book should teach the meaning of a radicals.
BTW, We may try to find another Smiths in different languages. Take for example Polish "kowal" (and may be western Ukranian and Belorussian too). Hence we have Ковальский, Ковалёв, Ковальчук etc.