Do these nicknames or diminutives of Maria all pretty much have the same connotation? or is one or another more intimate or another more casual?
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Do these nicknames or diminutives of Maria all pretty much have the same connotation? or is one or another more intimate or another more casual?
No, they're all different. I'll list all these forms from the most intimate to the most rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by mashamania
Mashenka is very very nice. You can call so a close friend, your child, your wife, or a person you dislike to make what you say sound cinical.
Mashula, Mashechka mean the same thing. Absolutely.
Masha is quite neutral, but you cannot address "Masha" an adult woman that is not a friend of yours. You use unformal "you" = ti with Masha.
Mariya is formal.
Mashka (Also Man'ka) sound familiar and slightly abusive. But you can call so a close friend of yours if you know she won't get offended.
Thank you! спасибо! :D :thumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Красота-то какая
Since this is for you fan website, I think you could also call her "Наша Маша" (Nasha Masha) which means "our Masha!" It's kind of catchy sounding (to me at least).Quote:
Originally Posted by mashamania
Also then Маша-растеряша :D
Masha - rasteryasha
It is a delicate and tender way of saying: Masha-who-is-always-losing-things. For silly girls.[/b]
Наша Маша
Yeah, that is a catchy phrase, and easy to cheer! lol :D
Маша-растеряша
cute lol! :D
Хороша Маша, да не наша... :)
Наша Маша горько плачет
Изнасиловали значит!
Our Masha sobs bitterlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Chuvak
It means they raped her!??!? :?:
Yes :? Originally the verse wasn't cruel
Наша Таня громко плачет
Уронила в речку мячик
Тише, Танечка, не плачь:
Не утонет в речке мяч!
Our Tanya is sobbing bitterly
She has dropped her ball into the river
Cheer up, Tanechka, don't cry
The ball will not go down.
That's one of the very popular poems by famous soviet children's writer Agnia Barto.Quote:
Yes. Originally the verse wasn't cruel.
Some of these poems gave birth to hundreds of parodies, most of which are rude or indecent.
Наша Таня громко плачет
Уронила в речку мячик
Тише, Танечка, не плачь:
Не утонет в речке мяч!
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Наша Таня, типа, плачет -
Уронила, типа, мячик.
Нет бы ей прикинуть, дуре -
Не утонет он, в натуре.
or (мишка=teddy bear):
Уронили мишку на пол,
Оторвали мишке лапу.
Все равно его не брошу,
Потому что он хороший.
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Даже если спирт замерзнет
Все равно я пить не брошу
Буду грызть его зубами
Потому что он хороший.
That's the only innocent version of mishka-poem. Other poems about Mishka are so sadistic I don't dare to quote them here. :)
Exactly :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmaley
Our Masha is sobbing bitterly
Therefore She was raped!!!
Если красавица в рот брать стесняется
Дай ей по печени - пусть покривляется!!!
Наша Маша горько плачет -
Уронила в речку мячик.
Тише, Танечка, не плачь -
А то будешь там где мяч!!!
уронила Маша, а попадёт Танечке? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wanja
Wow. These are terrible -- like an even more twisted form of "Joy to the World (the Teacher's Dead!)" This was horribly popular in like fourth grade (set of course to the tune of the religious hymn Joy to the World (the Lord has come):
Joy to the world,
The teacher's dead,
We barbequed her head,
And as for the body,
We flushed it down the potty,
Let Heaven and nature sing, let Heaven and Nature sing...
Another version:Quote:
Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
Наша Таня громко плачет
Уронила в речку мячик
Тише, Танечка, не плачь:
Всё равно соседский мяч!
Lol, good one. I remember that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmaley
Наша Таня громко плачет,Quote:
Originally Posted by wanja
Уронила в речку мячик.
Тише, Танечка, не плачь,
А не то я дам под ср*ч!
:oops:
How do you feel when you are called---without any nicknames, just directly,
like "Sergei!!" "Alexandr!!" ????
it's okay, absolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hyoga
Спасибо
And what do you think...
the relationship between man and woman but they're friends,
a man says to her to call him ---ka nickname, like Mashenka,
there's something means special or it happens a lot in the friendship?
Hyoga
"-ka" is used between lovers, relatives, close friends, in a very friendly atmosphere between colleagues sometimes. a girl hardly will be offended if called "-ka" from not a very familiar person, but it's better to refrain.
But it's ok to call so your woman secretary. "Леночка, принеси чаю, пожалуйста". "Анечка, для меня есть новая почта?"
"-ka" doesn't mean love or intimacy in the ordinary sense.
And some people are too shy to call anyone "-ka".
So someone addressing you in such a way would not imply that they were trying to stay a little distant or didn't want to get personal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra
It's better to mistake and to choose more formal address than to mistake and to choose too familiar/unceremonious form - if you don't feel the difference between Mashka and Mashenka, Maria will be the best of optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by basurero
Addressing someone "Вы" is much more likely (and a better way!) trying to stay distant, than calling you full name. Because "Sergei" can be diminished to friendly "Serega" (Серёга) which is permitted only between pretty close friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by basurero
P.S. Although it may sound jokingly between friends, I often address my buddies "Вы, Александр, сделали нечто ужасное". It sounds cool.
whoa it's surprising that calling someone just adding -ka gets you Russians shy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
I understand well that -ka nickname is used frequently and usually even between man and woman...
And can I recognize you basically call friends/familiar people with those nicknames originated from the basic name? *except for the unique nicknames, etc. given by your frineds jokingly
I'm not sure you may call that a nickname. It's just one of the many forms every russian name has. And yes, we basicaly call each other by names. :) The convinience is you can chose the form of name that suits the situation the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyoga
Yeah, these are usually called "dimunuatives" in English -- a "shortened" form of an actual name. I think that Russian distinguishes between it as well: уменьшительный vs. кличка. A nickname is usually something that's just attributed by one's friends/family that describes some trait they have. So maybe you have a guy named Mikhail, who's called Misha as his diminuative, but maybe his soccer buddies call him something like "shorty" (b/c he's not tall) or "rabbit" (b/c he's fast/has big ears/looks like Bugs Bunny/whatever).Quote:
Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
Ehmmmmm, not shy, but calling -ka between men surely causes suspicions about their homosexuality. Between girls it's always ok, between men and women it depends on situation. Khm... I call -ka all my female friends and they seem to be pleased. ;) And many of them call me "Vitalichka" (-ka from Vitaliy) though we're not lovers. I do say calling -ka not always means love and all. Just close relationship.Quote:
whoa it's surprising that calling someone just adding -ka gets you Russians shy!
As I understand your language, you basically add -kun and -chan to men and women names to show some formality. Names without them are permitted between close friends. I think the same with -ka, but -ka is also caressing thing, not just a sign of friendship.
Yeah, they're not nicknames actually. Just a familiar "branch" of naming.Quote:
And can I recognize you basically call friends/familiar people with those nicknames originated from the basic name?