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Hi, I've just started a russian course at the university, and I was wondering if you could help me write my name in russian.
Kimberly Chapman
which, I think looks like,
Кимварли Чапман
I think I screwed up on some of my vowels, but could some one who is a little more advanced let me know?
Thanks,
Kimmi
Diffrent people will probly tell you diffrent things, but
Кииберли чепмен is probly a little bit more accurate.
Alternatively, Кимбэрли Чэпмэн. But I can't stand transliterated names. Are you really required to write your name in transliterated Russian?
The first name will be definitely "Кимберли". As to the last name, it can be either "Чапмен" or "Чепмен". For example, the name of George Chapman, English poet and playwright, is traditionally spelled as "Чапмен". However, the same encyclopedia that spells the poet's name that way calls Sidney Chapman (an English scientist) "Чепмен".
They hardly ever (almost never) use the letter Э in transliterated names, i dont think i have seen one yet (though im not expert).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
and when i wrote "Кииберли", i naturally ment "ким" typo's happen.
(its funnt becayse at first i wrote "кммберли" and i went back and edited it... and i thought i double checked it but i guess i switched the M's for the И's =(... pwned).
I think that Чепмен is a good spelling.
One more example in favour of that, Tracy Chapman in most cases spells like Трейси Чепмен.
That's strange, most of the transliterated names I've seen have Э in them. Guess it depends on your preference.
My visa has my last name spelled with э .
it probly just depends on the russian who translates it.
if you wrote chapman with one Э and one E. it would look wierd. And, if you wrote it with two Эs. it would look really weird. So, u can never go wrong with just E E .
I transliterate my name with an Э.
Well, that's probly 100% fine, but, if/when you go to russia, you'll probly be spotted as pwnable n00b right away, but who cares really.
Latin/English "E" is transliterated into Russian "Э" if it is the 1st letter in the word, like in the name Эдуард.
When you go to Russia you are stuck with what ever the spelling on your visa is and you don't get a say in how the Russian Embassy spells your name. Also on all official or legal documents your name must match the name and spelling on your visa.
Considering official papers, there are some transliteration rules (I'm speaking about Cyrillic -> Latin transliteration). As far as I know, until some years ago names in travel passports were transiterated by french rules and now they are transliterated by english ones. Unfortunetly it seems that different organizations use different rules. For instance, my name "Алексей Е..." is written as:
Alexei E... - in my passport
Alexey Ye... - in my plastic VISA card
Aleksey Ye... - in my driver's license
By the way, when I filled in a form for getting a plastic card, there was a field where I could write my name the way I wanted to see it in the card, but they just ignored what I wrote.
Anybody who's interested in transliteration rules can take a look here:
http://www.vgd.ru/ENGLISH/translit.htm
Here is a story about how one man's name was transliterated by some organizations :)
http://az.48.org/z.htm
PS: Is "travel passport" an appropriate translation (actually a guess) for "загранпаспорт"?
We don't have a загранпаспорт(at least not in the US), that is, we use the passport for foreign travel only and generally don't need it inside the country.
Pravit
I see, but how do you call it, just a 'passport'?
We don't have a загранпаспорт(at least not in the England), that is, we use the passport for foreign travel only and never need it inside the country :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
Exactly. If you have one you just call it a passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexei
We only have one kind of passport... so, therefore, its just a passport.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexei
Okay, it seems that only Russians can help me.
Although I have another question, if I translate it as "foreign passport" is it will be any good?
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by alexei
Just say passport ! Since we have no "Domestic" passports, if someone has a passport, it's obviously for foriegn travel.
Americans don't have their personal passports? So, how do you establish someone's identity or fill in forms with personal material? By driving license?
Driving license, utility bill, Mormon genealogy voucher...
Unlike most European countries, the USA and the UK do not require their citizen-subjects to be able to identify themselves at all times and in all places. Yet.
dogboy
I'm talking about Russia. We have one passport to use inside the country and another passport to go abroad. The first one we call just 'passport' and I'm interested in an appropriate name for the second one.
Lol... Actually, untill about 2 months ago had no ID. I couldn't do anything ! I couldn't open a bank account or anything ! But... i have like 5 pieces of ID now, and i'll have 1 more soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous
also, in america, you can use your social securty number for alot of things... though it can be a pain to memorize it.
For example you want to sell your house. How a purchaser supposed to know that the owner of the house is you? Believe in words? What personal documents are used for such deals? Can it be social security bill in US?Quote:
Originally Posted by joysof
What's an ID (physically)? What does it look like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogboy182
To Russians curious about American ID:
The driver's license pretty much serves as the standard ID for most Americans. It varies from state to state, but mine is just a card with my name, address, gender, height, weight, eye color, date of birth, and photo on it. It also has a magnetic strip on it(probably with more info) which is used by the police or department of motor vehicles if they need to check it(say if you get into a car accident or need to renew your license). You don't need to carry an ID with you at all times(well, if you're driving, obviously you should have your license with you). Dogboy is right in that a lot of times your Social Security Number is used to identify you. However, if you don't have a driver's license, anything with your picture and name on it will do(usually). In fact, some institutions require that you use a special ID with them. At the university I have to identify myself with my university ID(which just has my picture, name, date of birth, and student ID number on it) and at the bank I use my bank card(which has similar information on it).
For something more "important" however, you might need your birth certificate or something like that. To get my driver's license itself I needed to show them my birth certificate. Obviously you don't carry them around all the time with you.
As for an appropriate name for your загранпаспорт, it might be better to clarify exactly what it is(if it's important for you to distinguish it from your domestic passport) instead of just giving some sort of translation, since we have no equivalent here. Otherwise, I'd just call it your "passport" and your domestic passport your "ID." Not exact, but it works.
yea, pravit prety much summed it up.
When i went to order my passport (the one to travel around the world =P)
The girl infront of me got turned down because she didn't have her birth certificate.
Difrent situations call for difrent peices of ID. Obviously, if u get pulled over by a cop, he wont ask for your school ID, but your drivers license. So, as pravit said, it just fits the situation...
And, if you really want to know what they look like, i can take pictures of my ID's =P
(I also have a picture of pravit's drivers license ! :D :D )
How can it be used to identify you if doesn't have your photo? Or it does?Quote:
a lot of times your Social Security Number is used to identify you.
What for? Obviously it doesn't have your photo. In Russia you only need it when you get a passport, they get your name and your date of birth from it.Quote:
For something more "important" however, you might need your birth certificate
how about Кимварли Чепман ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmi
coz i think Чапман sounds more like 'chaaapman" in russian and Чепман more like ' chaepman' .. thats the closest u can get to ur second name in russian :D
conclusion - Кимварли Чепман
ps - enjoy
а не Кимберли Чепмен?
yes ... more correct :)Quote:
Originally Posted by QWERTYZ
Кимберли Чепмен :D