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    Learn Russian to use in New York, what a ridiculous idea. And for the record it's not particularly useful in Eastern Europe contrary to what you seem to think.

    Maybe you are actually another Russian living in the USA, there used to be several of those using this forum.
    Obviously their view is rather biased and as somebody pointed out, they feel a strong need to justify to themselves, that leaving Russia was the right choice.

    As for the West being an example to the world - tell that to the Libyans, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Vietnamese, South Americans and East Ukrainians who more or less had their lives ruined through the intervention of the West. Just to mention some examples, there are more.

    And your claim that there is "only one existing truth" is nonsense in a political context. There are several people here who live in Russia who disagree with you. So it's ludicrous that you would make out that there is only one truth, namely your interpretation.

    Then you accuse me of being ignorant and in a comfortable EU country.
    You are obviously not aware that the living standard in many EU countries has reduced dramatically after embracing US style neo-liberal economic policies. Yes it may be slightly more comfortable in some EU countries than Russia, at the moment. Excluding Greece Romania and others. But our living standards have reduced over the last decade. In Russia they are improving.

    You obviously have roof over your head, food in your stomach, received a good education that taught you English, have a computer and a broadband connection and time to partcipate in this forum. Life can be a lot worse than that so you are not quite the suffering victim you seem to think that you are.

    I am bored with this discussion. The kind of views you express are available in all Western press, there is no need to come here to hear it.

    "Poor oppressed Russians living in Putin's dictatorship, with censorship and no freedom for gay people.... Full of corruption, miscarriages of justice and police brutality".


    "Yet they keep voting for Putin because he brainwashed them - poor bastards can't even think for themselves, totally at the mercy of evil Putin. Plus, Putin cheats in elections anyway".


    Yes I heard all that, and I largely don't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    There are several people here who live in Russia who disagree
    They are stupid. Or liers.

    Clear enough?


    You obviously have roof over your head, food in your stomach, received a good education that taught you English, have a computer and a broadband connection and time to partcipate in this forum. Life can be a lot worse than that so you are not quite the suffering victim you seem to think that you are.
    And so? Am I supposed to be an animal? Bydlo (the cattle) like it is being called? Got food \ roof - that`s it?

    You are obviously not aware that the living standard in many EU countries has reduced dramatically after embracing US style neoliberal economic policies.
    Not relevant argument.
    Compare russian salaries with europeans.
    Don`t forget that I actually lived in the EU till 2013. And still have got acquanitences there.

    I`m not even talking about how rouble dramaticall fell now. Just compare 2013 salaries. Or 2012. Using numbeo.com, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge_spb View Post
    They are stupid. Or liers.

    Clear enough?
    есть два мнения: мое и неправильное
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    Quote Originally Posted by hddscan View Post
    есть два мнения: мое и неправильное
    Ерничать здесь не надо.

    Равно как и церемониться с дураками, позволяя вести разговор на равных.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge_spb View Post
    Равно как и церемониться с дураками, позволяя вести разговор на равных.
    а кто будет решать кто дурак а кто нет? И как мы узнаем что "решающий" прав?
    И самое главное что делать если кто-то согласен с "решающим", а кто-то нет?
    Вы почему то априори предполагаете, что все согласятся с вашим мнением, хотя это очень далеко от реальности.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hddscan View Post
    а кто будет решать кто дурак а кто нет? И как мы узнаем что "решающий" прав?
    И самое главное что делать если кто-то согласен с "решающим", а кто-то нет?
    Вы почему то априори предполагаете, что все согласятся с вашим мнением, хотя это очень далеко от реальности.
    Ну это уже совсем болтология.

    Чтобы все соглашались мне и не нужно. Пока умные, которых есть за что уважать, не говорят что-то диаметрально противоположное моему - значит я не сошел с ума, а вижу что происходит на самом деле.

    Софистику - для других адресатов.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge_spb View Post
    Чтобы все соглашались мне и не нужно. Пока умные, которых есть за что уважать, не говорят что-то диаметрально противоположное моему - значит я не сошел с ума, а вижу что происходит на самом деле.
    Опять же это априори предполагает, что вы все время правы, а кто с вами не согласен, то тот дурак.
    Я уверен что найдутся люди, ... (Вытерто. Л.)
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