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February 15th, 2005, 11:43 PM
johnnydrum

"..ты не знаеш"

Привет!
Я сегодня учиться нови русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ"--which,when learning слово/словарь/спева at the same time,is--Как Сказать ра русски "confusing"...
I also heard this phrase " ты не знаеш",which,after noticing the "trick negative" (thanks waxwing) means "would you happen to know",but I dont think Im hearing the last part,should it be "Zna-yesh"
As allways,I thank everyone here for thier help - believe it or not,i am getting better..lol
February 16th, 2005, 12:43 AM
drew881

Well, we say "don't you know" all the time. Kind of similar
February 19th, 2005, 04:12 AM
TATY

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Привет!
Я сегодня учиться нови русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ"--which,when learning слово/словарь/спева at the same time,is--Как Сказать ра русски "confusing"...
I also heard this phrase " ты не знаеш",which,after noticing the "trick negative" (thanks waxwing) means "would you happen to know",but I dont think Im hearing the last part,should it be "Zna-yesh"
As allways,I thank everyone here for thier help - believe it or not,i am getting better..lol

по-русски it's Ты не знаешь, this isn't Ukrianian.

It sounds how it is spelt.
Zhayesh' = Знаешь
February 19th, 2005, 05:52 AM
Lampada

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by TATY

по-русски it's Ты не знаешь, this isn't Ukrianian.

ТАТУ, ты очень смешной. :thumbs:
February 19th, 2005, 02:01 PM
Евгения Белякова

Ти не знаеш- This is Ukrainian
February 20th, 2005, 04:02 PM
TATY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Евгения Белякова

Ти не знаеш- This is Ukrainian

If you are gonna correct me, do it right.

Ти не знаєш.
February 21st, 2005, 01:58 PM
Евгения Белякова

Sorry, and by the way I wasn't correcting you.
March 31st, 2005, 11:41 AM
Ядерное лицо

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by TATY

по-русски it's Ты не знаешь, this isn't Ukrianian.

It sounds how it is spelt.
Zhayesh' = Знаешь

Am I right in thinking that ь doesn't affect the pronunciation of the hushes(ж ч ш щ)? Also, is it true that any noun ending in a hush and ь in feminine?
March 31st, 2005, 03:39 PM
Friendy

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by Ядерное лицо

Am I right in thinking that ь doesn't affect the pronunciation of the hushes(ж ч ш щ)?

Yes, that's correct.

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Also, is it true that any noun ending in a hush and ь in feminine?

As far as I remember, yes.
March 31st, 2005, 04:43 PM
kwatts59

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Как Сказать ра русски "confusing"...

confusing прил. Вебстер | фразы | g-sort
дип. нечёткий; неясный
матем. путаный

confusing сущ. в начало
общ. сбивающий с толку
дип. вносящий путаницу

путаные слова = confusing words
March 31st, 2005, 04:56 PM
kwatts59

Re: "..ты не знаеш"

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Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Привет!
Я сегодня учиться нови русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ"

Should not this be:

Я сегодня учу новое русского слово "СЛОВАРЬ"
March 31st, 2005, 05:03 PM
Kamion

Why did you put "русского" in the genitive case? I thought it should be
"Я сегодня учил новое русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ".
March 31st, 2005, 05:10 PM
kwatts59

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Originally Posted by Kamion

Why did you put "русского" in the genitive case? I thought it should be
"Я сегодня учил новое русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ".

I thought русского was Accusative Neutral as well as Genitive Neutral.

At least that's what it says in the Dictionary Tree
http://russian.dmll.cornell.edu/rdt/
March 31st, 2005, 05:20 PM
Kamion

Only if the following word is animate. And "слово" isn
March 31st, 2005, 05:58 PM
Kamion

Now that I think about it, neutral words can
March 31st, 2005, 06:00 PM
Pravit

[quote=Kamion]Now that I think about it, neutral words can
March 31st, 2005, 06:10 PM
kwatts59

[quote=Kamion]Only if the following word is animate. And "слово" isn
March 31st, 2005, 06:19 PM
kwatts59

[quote=Kamion]Now that I think about it, neutral words can
March 31st, 2005, 06:24 PM
JJ

Я сегодня учу новое русское слово "словарь".
I am learning a new russian word....
Я сегодня учил новое русское слово "СЛОВАРЬ.
I learned a new russian word.... (looks like it was so difficult that he couldn't finish it :) )
I would say Я сегодня выучил.... - I have learned a new russian word today.
March 31st, 2005, 06:41 PM
Pravit

[quote=kwatts59][quote=Kamion]Now that I think about it, neutral words can
March 31st, 2005, 06:50 PM
kwatts59

Чёрт, all this time I thought animate meant something physical - something that can be touched.
March 31st, 2005, 06:55 PM
Milanya1

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Originally Posted by kwatts59

Чёрт, all this time I thought animate meant something physical - something that can be touched.

It is tangible or palpable.

tan·gi·ble adj.

Discernible by the touch; palpable:
Possible to touch.

from dictionary.com
March 31st, 2005, 07:03 PM
kwatts59

I found a neutral animate word.
How does this sound?

я купил новое русского животное.
I bought a new Russian animal.
March 31st, 2005, 07:11 PM
JJ

купил новое русское животное.

Очень богат животный мир Урала. Здесь насчитывается до 16 000 видов животных. Одних комаров, например, 15.5 тысяч видов... :)
March 31st, 2005, 09:19 PM
Kamion

[quote=Pravit][quote=Kamion]Now that I think about it, neutral words can
March 31st, 2005, 10:37 PM
kwatts59

[quote=Kamion]
And kwatts59, you have to be consistent about the endings of the adjectives. In your examples you
April 1st, 2005, 04:07 AM
Kamion

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Originally Posted by kwatts59

I messed up because the Dictionary Tree says the Accusative Neutral form of русский is русского.
Can you give me an example where you would use русского as Accusative Neutral?

You would do that whenever the noun that follows is animate. Like I said earlier these words are very rare, but if you would use one of them then you would have to put "русского" as accusative neutral.
April 1st, 2005, 04:45 AM
Moryachka

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Originally Posted by Pravit

I'm thinking of a four-letter word that begins with "d" and ends in "ya"... ;)

What is the accusative of that one, anyway? I can't find it anywhere - not in my dictionaries, not on the web... :wall: ! Or is it the same as the genitive? Or have I just fried my brains staying up too late :) ??
April 1st, 2005, 04:48 AM
Pravit

Lingvo says it just so happens to be the same as the nominative. :)
April 1st, 2005, 05:16 AM
Moryachka

Эээ....спасибо...почти сутки как не сплю...да и сон вообщем - ну, его переценивают ... :lol: . Привычка плохая, это правда.
April 1st, 2005, 10:28 AM
TATY

[quote=kwatts59][quote=Kamion]
And kwatts59, you have to be consistent about the endings of the adjectives. In your examples you
April 1st, 2005, 05:39 PM
kwatts59

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Originally Posted by TATY

No, -ого and -его are only used for the Genitive (and Acussative animates of masculine/neuter nouns).

русское is the Nominative and Accusative inanimate form for Neuter nouns.

You are saying русского is for Accusative Animate of Neuter nouns.
животное is Accusative Animate Neuter
Therefore we should use русского in the following sentence. Right?
я купил русское животное

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Originally Posted by TATY

Also, you really should have known what animate meant.
animation
animal
inanimate object

Я должен был действительно выпит.
April 1st, 2005, 05:45 PM
Milanya1

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Originally Posted by kwatts59

Я должен был действительно выпит.

Выпит был коньяк, а вы были навеселе.

Должно быть, я был нетрезв.

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