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Does anyone know where you could listen to soundclips of different Russian accents? I'm fascinated by this topic.
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I don't think the speech of the people from Murmansk would differ much from the speech of the people from Arkhangelsk. The both cities are located in the north, though the one from Arkhangelsk would use 'o'-ing more often, I think.Originally Posted by zolotojrebenok
Does anyone know where you could listen to soundclips of different Russian dialects? I'm fascinated by this topic.
General rule would be that the greater the distance between regions people live in the greater would be the difference in speech and Arkhangelsk and Murmansk are not all that far away from each other.
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I thought maybe they'd sound different since they're about the same distance apart as Piter is from Moscow (you can tell the difference in those two.)
Is Nizhnij Novgorod and Volgagrad much different?
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Er... I don't think so.
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The differences in speech become noticeable when going from the north to the south. Moving from the West to the East (ethnic republics like Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, etc excluded) would not reveal any major differences, not until you get to Siberia at least.
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LoL..and what happens at Siberia?
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You will eventually notice some differencesLoL..and what happens at Siberia?
But don't be mistaken here. There are NO dialects in Russian. All people in Russia speak the same language and you will understand anyone speaking Russian. The differences concern pronounciation and accents, but the speech is understandable everywhere.
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I've met people even from Kostroma (where оканье is common) who didn't speak with оканье, and their speech sounded to me like if they were from Moscow.
In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.
That's because of the TV.
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Maybe. But rather because of the education. Those people were a doctor and a teacher at the local university. Everyone watches the TV there, but not everyone speaks like a Muscovite.
In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.
Why are you asking about random cities?
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>There are NO dialects in Russian.
??? C'mon Ramil. At least give us broad ones like okan'e and akan'e! Or do you mean that жгёшь is just an error, not a dialectism?
Do you also mean that there are NO dialects in English either, because we are all speaking the same language?
Here is a true story. As some of you may remember, a while ago I was tranlating a cycle of TV shows (and posted here some audio and video scraps from these shows when I had trouble making out what people say). Well, the story of one of these shows took place in South Carolina. The locals were not exatly easy to understand, but one specific piece was completely baffling me. So I made an audio file, as usual, and started bugging my online English-speaking friends with request to help me understand it. It so happened that the first person I accosted was someone from northern US. She helped me a with certain phrases, but said she couldn't understand the rest if her life depended on it. I talked to a couple more people from USA and UK with the same (partial) success. But when I finally managed to find someone who had lived in the South for a long time, she gave me an exact word-for-word transcript without a moment's hesitation.
True story number too: the same cycle, different episode. This time, it was an UK guy (somehwere from up north) that I couldn't understand. This time around, it was a friend from UK who was able to help me where Americans failed.
True story number three: the Mad Max movie had to be dubbed into American English, because Americans could not understand the original Aussie sound track.
Do you still insist you all are actually speaking the same language? :P
Nothing like that could happen in Russia, by the way. I won't insists that we don't have dialectal differences (it all depends on one's definition of a dialect, after all), but even if we have dialects, they are less of a dialect than your dialects are
Well, I don't think English has dialects. (Unless you call BrE and AmE dialects). Probably Africaans
You can call some speech a dialect when the same word has a different meaning.
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Ramil, that is not how linguists define the notion of dialects. If you listen to someone's grandma from down south near Ukraine and another's grandma from up in Arkhangel'sk, these people will not be speaking the same way, and I don't mean that the only difference will be on individual lexical items.
I totally agree. Russian is way more uniform, than English. I'm from Ukraine, but when I visited Russia no one could actually guess where I am from, due to the lack of distinct 'akanie' or 'okanie' (or fricative "г"). They could probably tell that I'm not a Muscovite or inhabitant of Vologda (or whatever), but that's it.Nothing like that could happen in Russia, by the way. I won't insists that we don't have dialectal differences (it all depends on one's definition of a dialect, after all), but even if we have dialects, they are less of a dialect than your dialects are
I think it's true for many Russians. You can probably tell that they are not from somewhere (from Mocsow, from Nothern regions), but it's hard to actually pinpoint their place of residence. Also there are plenty of people in any region who don't have a specific 'regional' accent, but speak a standard 'TV' Russian.
But, please, don't share your ideas with linguists, and particularly with dialectologists, OK?Well, I don't think English has dialects. (Unless you call BrE and AmE dialects). Probably Africaans
You can call some speech a dialect when the same word has a different meaning.
My, you mustn't mention them to any English language student who can draw several maps with dialectal borders from heptarchy time, and it's more than 1,000 years ago, up to our days...
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Probably I am wrong at my definition, but still those grandmas would perfectly understand each other, that's what I mean when I say that Russian language has no dialects.
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There are dialects in every language. In fact, Russian, Slovene, Czech, Sorbian, Ukranian, Bulgarian, Belorussian, Polish, etc all ultimately began as dialects of Proto-Slavonic in the same way that French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Catalan, etc began as dialects of Latin.
The idea that "dialects can't happen to Russian" is completely ridiculous and spawns from the widespread misconception that languages are static cultural artifacts. They're not. They're living, breathing, changing.
Keep in mind that Belorussian and Ukranian are considered by some linguists to technically be dialects of Russian.
There also exists, of course, the blatnoy dialect, and I'm sure there are differences in speech between the socio-economic classes as well as, however minute, differences between regions in areas such as word choice, consonant and vowel changes, etc.
Although language change is inevitable, it remains to be seen whether languages will progress more or less uniformly in their change given the "MTV effect" which I think was mentioned.
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