help with Ее взяла ..and where is Hockeys LADA??

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March 15th, 2005, 10:58 PM
johnnydrum

help with Ее взяла ..and where is Hockeys LADA??

Still enjoying learning Russian,going at a steady pace,however,Im a little stuck on this lesson.
Its a converstion betweeen the teacher and his student....I seem to have the first part "cracked" but Im really struggling to hear and understand the students reply...

Teacher: "....возьмите ручку" ( go and take, go and get a pen)
Student; "Ее взяла ,Наташа" how does one pronounce Ее взяла..does it mean,"it belongs to Natasha?"

Also,in something completley un-related,the Russian hockey league playofs are round the corner,Iam rooting for a team called LADA Togliatti...can anyone tell me where the heck "Togliatti" is??
Is there anyone with any hockey knowledge here,who would know when the playoffs start..?
March 15th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Pravit

Togliatti sounds a lot like a city named Тольятти. Not sure why they would write it as if it were Italian, though.

Edit: Oh. They named the city after the Italian communist leader in '64.
March 16th, 2005, 03:15 AM
kalinka_vinnie

Re: help with Ее взяла ..and where is Hockeys LADA??

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Student; "Ее взяла ,Наташа" how does one pronounce Ее взяла..does it mean,"it belongs to Natasha?"

Well, not knowing the names of the people in the example it could mean:
Natasha, I have taken it (assuming the teacher is Natasha and the student is female)
Or, if the comma shouldn't really be there, it could mean:
Natasha took it (no assumptions)

pronounce: yeyo vzyala, natasha
March 16th, 2005, 01:40 PM
Lampada

http://focus.attack.ru/city/gorodvzhig/index.html

...Город Ставрополь (с 1964 г Тольятти) основан в 1737 году как крепость от набегов крымских татар и нагайцев
...
Хоккейная команда "Лада" на протяжении пяти лет является одной из сильнейших команд России. В сезоне 1994/95 гг. "Лада" завоевала второе место в розыгрыше кубка Европейских чемпионов, а в сезоне 1995/96 гг. стала чемпионом России. ...

Тольятти на карте:
http://images.yandex.ru/yandpage?q=2...6stype%3Dimage
March 16th, 2005, 04:56 PM
johnnydrum

Lampad,would you be so kind to help translate the text in to English for me,as my Russian is still poor.Thanks
March 16th, 2005, 04:58 PM
johnnydrum

Thank you Privet...I will look and see if I can see it on the map..
Now thats the hockey out of the way,how should I approach this tricky Russian lesson.

Teacher: "....возьмите ручку" ( go and take, go and get a pen)
Student; "Ее взяла ,Наташа" how does one pronounce Ее взяла..does it mean,"it belongs to Natasha?"
March 16th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Lampada

You can use http://ets6.freetranslation.com/ to translate.

The city of Stavropol (since 1964 г Tolyatti) is based in 1737 as a fortress from attacks of the Crimean Tatars and ...

Hockey team "Лада" during five years is one of the strongest teams of Russia. In a season 1994/95 "Лада" has won the second place in a cup of the European champions, and in a season 1995/96 became the champion of Russia.
March 16th, 2005, 09:28 PM
johnnydrum

Let me re-write the lesson,as Im still stuck and fear its because Im not explaining the conversation correctley....please excuse my "bafoonery"

Let me re-write the lesson,as Im still stuck and fear its because Im not explaining the conversation correctley....

Teacher: "....Маша,возьмите ручку"
Маша " "Ее взяла Наташа"
Teacher "хорошо,возьмите карандаш"
Маша "его взяла Саша"

So,am I correct in thinking that the teacher has asked Masha "go and get a pen"
Masha has replied "It has been allready taken by Natasha"
to which he replied, "Ok,go and take a pencil"
to which Masha replied " Sasha,he has taken it" ???

What do you think?
I still need halp,as Im simply not hearing correctley the pronounciation of "возьмите" and "взяла"
March 16th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Pravit

A comma makes all the difference! You have properly translated the lesson.

:thumbs:
March 18th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Vesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampada

The city of Stavropol (with 1964 г Tolyatti) is based in 1737 as a fortress from attacks of the Crimean Tatars and ...

Something is wrong here: Tolyatti and Stavropol are two different cities.
March 18th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Vesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnydrum

Let me re-write the lesson,as Im still stuck and fear its because Im not explaining the conversation correctley....please excuse my "bafoonery"

Let me re-write the lesson,as Im still stuck and fear its because Im not explaining the conversation correctley....

Teacher: "....Маша,возьмите ручку"
Маша " "Ее взяла Наташа"
Teacher "хорошо,возьмите карандаш"
Маша "его взяла Саша"

So,am I correct in thinking that the teacher has asked Masha "go and get a pen"
Masha has replied "It has been allready taken by Natasha"
to which he replied, "Ok,go and take a pencil"
to which Masha replied " Sasha,he has taken it" ???

What do you think?
I still need halp,as Im simply not hearing correctley the pronounciation of "возьмите" and "взяла"

Саша can be both male and female name in Russian. In this example Саша is clearly a woman because "его взяла Саша", not "взял Саша"
March 18th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Pravit

Quote:

Something is wrong here: Tolyatti and Stavropol are two different cities.

This is Ставрополь-на-Волге.
March 18th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Friendy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampada

The city of Stavropol (with 1964 г Tolyatti) is based in 1737 as a fortress from attacks of the Crimean Tatars and ...

Something is wrong here: Tolyatti and Stavropol are two different cities.

Tolyatti was indeed called Stavropol(Stavropol-on-Volga) before: http://www.tgl.ru/about_t/
March 18th, 2005, 07:03 PM
Vesh

Thanks.
March 19th, 2005, 12:09 AM
chaika

...Город Ставрополь (с 1964 г Тольятти) основан в 1737 году как крепость от набегов крымских татар и нагайцев
...
Хоккейная команда "Лада" на протяжении пяти лет является одной из сильнейших команд России. В сезоне 1994/95 гг. "Лада" завоевала второе место в розыгрыше кубка Европейских чемпионов, а в сезоне 1995/96 гг. стала чемпионом России. ...

The city of Stavropol (renamed Tol'yatti in 1964) was founded in 1737 as a fort to protect against the Crimean Tatars and Nagaians.

The Lada hockey team has been one of Russia's strongest teams for five years. In the 1994-95 season Lada won second place in the European cup championship (oops! not sure of terminology here), and in 1995-96 it was the champion in Russia.

Note that the Russian word "c" means "since". It has other meanings than "with" too.

- Masha, take the pen.
- Natasha [already] took it [already].
- OK, then take the pencil.
- Sasha took it [already].
March 21st, 2005, 08:54 PM
johnnydrum

Thank you all for your help....now,onto Lauras next lesson