Thread: Разные мысли и соображения вокруг событий в Украине

Originally Posted by Hanna

I don't understand why you say he lost touch with reality? I think he's being the same as he always is. A bit weird but with some punchlines here and there. Avoiding all difficult questions, like politicians always do.

Losing touch with reality would be saying "Yippi, finally a hafway legitimate chance to get Crimea back, let's go and "liberate" it and to heck with the West and lunatics in Kiev... and let's pick up a few cities in West Ukraine on the way there."

That's essentially what the Western media is portraying that he did, even though it actually hasn't happened.

Maybe I am less critical of him because I don't have to live in a country ruled by him... or because I like some aspects of his style.

Because as far I remember it's the first time he gave order that directly contradicts with international laws (to surround and disarm Ukrainian military bases in Crimea). Also direct lie about it was done by "Crimean self-defence forces". After doing this he has no moral right to say that Russian government always follow international laws and agreements. What a shame.

Originally Posted by Basil77

Also direct lie about it was done by "Crimean self-defence forces".

Why should he confess when noone forces him?

Originally Posted by Basil77

After doing this he has no moral right to say that Russian government always follow international laws and agreements. What a shame.

He is politician, he's not a priest.

Originally Posted by Basil77

he gave order that directly contradicts with international laws (to surround and disarm Ukrainian military bases in Crimea).

Like there's any proof that he did.

Originally Posted by dtrq

Like there's any proof that he did.

He is supreme commander of Russian military forces. "The polite armed guys" obviously belong to Russian military. No way any military commander can take such actions without highest order. Who are they? Some private contract army? I can understand the point why he is doing this. USA and European politicans acts with no less hypocrisy when talking about "peaceful protesters", denouncing the agreement that were signed by Polish, French and German foreign ministers and thousand other things. Putin acts like "it's a game of lies that can be played from both sides". The grave difference is that from Russian side there is direct military involvement and seems like Putin don't understand it's not the same thing.

Originally Posted by Basil77

Because as far I remember it's the first time he gave order that directly contradicts with international laws (to surround and disarm Ukrainian military bases in Crimea). Also direct lie about it was done by "Crimean self-defence forces". After doing this he has no moral right to say that Russian government always follow international laws and agreements. What a shame.

Oh ok, I didn't realise that. Yes, that's REALLY bad. It is exactly those types of things that makes Russia have the high moral ground in MY eyes.
However, internationally they judged Russia before it ever made a mistake, and they would have done so, even if Putin hadn't done that.
The truth doesn't seem to matter to ANYONE.