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    Speaking of which...
    Anyone actually succeeded in reaching www.wikileaks.org? I've been trying for days. It says DNS error. So I'm asking -- HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY BEEN TO THIS SITE?

    I'm hearing all kinds of news lately about it -- I think there would soon be all kinds of news rumors spreading over by the media claiming to have taken this from wikileaks.

    Generally, I think it's a good idea and we need more sites like wikileaks but there's a problem -- who's going to tell us where are the facts and where is the BS? What new facts did we really learn from wikileaks? Anything that hasn't been known or at least suspected before? Only confirmation, nothing more.

    But regardless of my doubts I think wikileaks begins a new era in politics. The thought that they can't hide the facts from their people anymore will be refreshing for the politicians. Since I detest and despise every politician in the world I wish all the luck to Julian Assange though I don't think he'll last for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Anyone actually succeeded in reaching www.wikileaks.org?
    http://213.251.145.96/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    but there's a problem -- who's going to tell us where are the facts and where is the BS? What new facts did we really learn from wikileaks? Anything that hasn't been known or at least suspected before? Only confirmation, nothing more.
    The volume is important. There are a great number of materials which can be checked and cross-checked from many sources - this is the confirmation. And it allows thorough research to get new facts etc. for everybody who would like to spend time. So even if it is no cheap sensation, it provides transparency.

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    It works from Ukraine, but no wikileaks.org domain name. And no ping, failed tracert. Yeah, it looks like DDos wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    The volume is important. There are a great number of materials which can be checked and cross-checked from many sources - this is the confirmation. And it allows thorough research to get new facts etc. for everybody who would like to spend time. So even if it is no cheap sensation, it provides transparency.
    Don't get me wrong. I LIKE the idea. I can even say I'm imressed. But I'm afraid that this phenomenon will soon be exploited. Who's going to conduct a serious research? Tens, maybe hundreds out of millions. Sites like wikileaks will multiply then someone might find a way to make some money out of it and then tons of BS will bury the real facts.
    For now, I can only hope people will think twice before they believe anything their governments are saying. Well, if people knew how to think it would have been a better world.
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