Thread: Protests

Mikhail Kasyanov, Putin's first prime minister but now a leading opponent, denounced the arrests and beatings in a speech at Turgenev Square.

"Everyone should ask the question: What is happening with our authorities are they still sane, or have they gone mad?" he said, as the crowd chanted "Shame on the government."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... 732&page=1

But aren't those protesters like Nazi's or what? ABC news is portraying them as victims.

Originally Posted by DDT

Mikhail Kasyanov, Putin's first prime minister but now a leading opponent, denounced the arrests and beatings in a speech at Turgenev Square.

"Everyone should ask the question: What is happening with our authorities are they still sane, or have they gone mad?" he said, as the crowd chanted "Shame on the government."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... 732&page=1

But aren't those protesters like Nazi's or what? ABC news is portraying them as victims.

Clowns, I'd say. All kinds of luck hunters unite before the elections. Everyone wants to be in opposition because USA had promised money. Each election is an opportunity to get some cash from the US State Dept in order to "protect the democracy". And so they do.

They were told that they could hold a demonstration at an alternate location but they insisted on doing it in Pushkin. So what did they expect? I think they wanted to get hit by police to gain attention. Stupid ABC news tries to make it sound like they were innocent. This is just what I think but I don't know for sure because I am not there.

Originally Posted by DDT

They were told that they could hold a demonstration at an alternate location but they insisted on doing it in Pushkin. So what did they expect? I think they wanted to get hit by police to gain attention. Stupid ABC news tries to make it sound like they were innocent. This is just what I think but I don't know for sure because I am not there.

Nobody, except themselves takes them seriously. They were provided with the meeting place but they chose otherwise (all this gatherings lead to heavy traffic jams, by the way so if you ask me, I'd preferred such street-shows to be forbidden entirely instead, they could buy some TV time and protest more widely for approximately the same amount of money they had spent on students who participated in these meetings in order to get some cash).
And yes - they wanted to be detained by the police because they knew that western media will go up in flames about this. They knew that the fact that they were released some hours later wouldn't appear on TV.

They knew that the fact that they were released some hours later wouldn't appear on TV.

How true!

Originally Posted by DDT

Mikhail Kasyanov, Putin's first prime minister but now a leading opponent, denounced the arrests and beatings in a speech at Turgenev Square.

"Everyone should ask the question: What is happening with our authorities are they still sane, or have they gone mad?" he said, as the crowd chanted "Shame on the government."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... 732&page=1

But aren't those protesters like Nazi's or what? ABC news is portraying them as victims.

Ideology of Limonov guys is really somewhere between Stalinism an Nazism.
Or, at least, it was.

I'm not even sure he can formulate it without any logical inconsistencies.

I accidentally got stuck in one of these demonstrations in December.I was taking some visiting friends to Red Square for the usual tour when we got trapped in the sea of police, army, special forces, police dogs, helicopters and every other riot control and armed force in all of Moscow. Nobody knew what was going on and none of the Russians walking around seemed to find it unusual or frightening that the guys in camo carrying rifles and big sticks were elbow to elbow lining the streets. It really looked like a war was about to happen. We tried to get out but all the metro stations in the center were closed and no matter how far we walked we couldn't get past the police barracades. We finally ducked into Patio Pizza to sit down and get something to eat but the window tables were taken by guys with cameras photographing the people on the sidewalk. Nothing on the TV or radio news that night. Several weeks later I read in an English language Moscow newspaper that it had been a small (less than 1000) political rally of a party that opposes Putin.

Марш несогласных в Москве, 14 апреля 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSV7SnTyReM

Don't know what to say or think. Nice video link Lampada. More protest permits were issued in Washington DC than there were days in the year for 2006. I can't find the link now.
Where can I get one of those yellow ПРЕССА smocks?

Умилили кадры, где задержанный Каспаров, из автобуса по-английски отчитывается о проделанной работе =)

Originally Posted by BappaBa

Умилили кадры, где задержанный Каспаров, из автобуса по-английски отчитывается о проделанной работе =)

Yes, it exactly was his report to the employers. It reminds me about chechen terrorists' style: the more noise in media after their action - the more money they recieve after it for future actions. But during the previous so-called "march of non-agreed" about a month ago had happen a better thing. On many TV channels, Russian and foreign, everyone could see a man carrying the poster with the foto of Berezovsky on it and the words "Berezovsky, we are with you". Later I heard on radio from the people who were at this show that the guy with poster appeared there just for the couple of minutes in front of the cameras and misteriously dissapeared then. I bet he went to write the report to his boss.

against President Vladimir Putin's government, which opponents accuse of rolling back freedoms Russians have enjoyed since the end of Soviet communism.

What freedoms did they enjoy before Putin came to power, I wonder? Perhaps, it's only this aricle that doesn't state these freedoms, so I thought maybe someone here might know what freedoms Russians were enjoying in the epoch of Yeltsin. Anyone know them?

"We now stand somewhere between Belarus and Zimbabwe," he said.

Maybe, it's just because Belarus's government conducts even strictes policies?



I'm not all for Putin. But all these violent opposition groups just don't seem to want to assume a tiny bit of responsibilty on themselves. They only blame all their problems on authorities and Putin for that matter.

Originally Posted by BappaBa

Умилили кадры, где задержанный Каспаров, из автобуса по-английски отчитывается о проделанной работе =)

По первому каналу его все равно много покажзывать не будут, ну а переводчиков с английского больше, чем с русского.

Originally Posted by Basil77

Originally Posted by BappaBa

Умилили кадры, где задержанный Каспаров, из автобуса по-английски отчитывается о проделанной работе =)

Yes, it exactly was his report to the employers. It reminds me about chechen terrorists' style: the more noise in media after their action - the more money they recieve after it for future actions.

Orgainsation of police enforcement allows to suppose that officials made everything to provoke clash between police and marchers. Maybe some of officials that can't imagine ther future life without Putin as president try force him to dismiss constitution and remain in power for third ( and more, if necessary ) term.

Ничего себе!

31 мая 2010 года
Москва
Марш несогласных


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