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Not necessarily. Have you ever thought that some of these countries are backwards because of US intervention? The US is doing everything it can to stop China's economic growth... if everyone in China were as well-off as in the US, then Americans would suffer.
No I have never thought that, where does the US intervene? I believe we have great communication with China and have not realized any issues in some time.
As for the other countries, they have been here thousands of years before the US yet they still lack basic services, medicine etc.. yet there dictators have many palaces, money etc..... So show me some facts that the US is getting in there way.
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I don't really get what you are saying here, but if you are trying to say the USA is being "nice" and "helping all these folks" then I entirely disagree. You may say that the benefits are long-term, well, that may be true, but it will be a very, very long time before the advantages finally outweigh the cost of the lives of the thousands of innocents murdered (on both sides).
I am stating that the US had no rights to intervene unless someone (like Saudi Arabia and Kuwaiti did) request assistance. Now you cant tell me that it is not being nice that we would come to the aid of a country requesting assistance from a tyrant? Yes we have some long-term benefit, no doubt, I am sure it is written in contracts that everyone always fails to see. Contracts that state, US help us and we will grant you OIL at a better price! You see, we are business people too, and if we dont see some benefit of the US taxpayers paying for a war, then hmmm something is wrong. But everyone always forgets about the facts AFTER the WAR. Who pays what, and for how long.
Remember it was Iraq who attacked, during that WAR, If civilians died, please send a note to Saddam for not looking after them, or not understanding the consequences of attacking countries.
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What does Al Qaeda have to do with Iraq? I sort of agree with Afghanistan, but that is an entirely different story.
They have nothing to do with Iraq, not during Enduring Freedom anyway. Enduring Freedom was the war within Afghanistan NOT Iraq. So this portion of my comment was concerning the war in Afghanistan and not Iraq.
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Well I wouldn't be demanding you let me search your house for bombs in the first place. It is your house after all and who am I to tell you what to do?
Well if your not going to understand that is ok too, maybe your ok with someone having a bomb living next door to you, or a threat to other neighborhoods far away. But the international community does not condone this. So just becuase it is my house, I do have rules in the community to live by.
I know your from New Zealand, so thanks for telling me.
On another note, do you think that it was ok for Russia to "place" Nuclear weapons on our next door neighbors land? They were trying to be very sneeky and our neighbors where like, what are you talking about, we have no Nukes. So we had to prove that they did, could you imagine what could have happened all over the world? WWIII and it would not had been pretty for anyone. So yes, we do have the right to know!
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unfortunately, the longer the US stays in the Middle East the more terrorists there are going to be, unless they do something to drastically change how people percieve them over there. You are not going to be able to kill them all and then wham, that's it - no more terrorists. There are always going to be new ones to replace the old. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, don't forget, and America is not very popular these days. Even if you don't agree with them you can see where it comes from. I too would probably become a "guerilla fighter" if my country (New Zealand - not Russia, btw) were invaded by some Islamic country trying to set up a religious theocracy, killing my family and friends in the process. And imagine how I would feel when I found out all they really wanted were the sheep...
I agree with you here, thats why I would love to leave Iraq, but again, we cant leave with the current situation as it is. We have to be responisble and make sure things are right before leaving. I beleive there are more folks happy then there are Terrorists. We all just look at the media who only portrays the terrorists activities. Do you not remember the day the Coalition took over Baghdad? The citizens where so happy, dancing in the streets, and dragging Saddams head all over the place. In Afghanistan the Taliban is trying to make another push, we need to show them that they cannot do this. However we need to be doing this with the local Afghanistan people, meaning more of them and less of us. Until we see that they can defend themselves of such people.
Thats the problem with Islam(my opinion) is that they believe that there Religion is above everyone elses. So until they understand that there are many others, they need to just take a chill pill. The problem is that it is huge following, but I doubt that most of them are radicals like the few we know. This also has to do with there government keeping things from them, or teaching them what they want them to be taught.
I have many friends in the Islamic community and it never seems to amaze me the way they think and the way they do things. I just have to keep telling them, sorry, I dont do it like that. Most that are in the US actually understand that now, understand that freedom to choose. Unfortunately, they only learn of that once they get to the US, or better yet, to countries outside the Islamic ones.
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Do you really thing Kim Jong Il wants to die? Last I heard he was a big fan of expensive cuisine and cars etc... Why would he want to be vaporised in a nuclear explosion? Maybe the oppressed people would think differently (probably not), but Kim Jong Il has a pretty sweet life.... A nuclear attack on America would directly affect everyone (including the people making the desicions), not just the soldiers on the front line like in a conventional war. Desicions like launching a nuclear weapon are not taken lightely and these people are not stupid. Everyone knows the consequences of nuclear war these days...
I dont believe he wants to die, nor did Hitler, or Saddam or many other dictators such as him. The problem here are his threats to the US and international community (South Korea, Japan etc..) that is not acceptable. So if he wants to do the things he loves to do as stated by your post, then why threaten, why cause problems with the international community? He was doing just fine without the threats and Nuke issues. Is this because he actually believes he can cause issues with the international community? If they know the consequences then he must really be way off, because he would not think about even building a Nuke. Look at Libya, we struck Iraq for that reason, and within weeks, Libya was like, Hi US we want to work with you, what do you need from us? We need you to stand down, we need you to stop the threats, we need you to compensate the families for your bombings, we need you to NOT start any Nuclear programs etc.. etc.. etc...
Yes Sir, we will abide! Have you heard anything between the US and Libya lately?
umm NOT!