Thread: Kasparov

Hello!

I was wondering what you Russians (and non Russians) think of the Kasparov's supposedly presidential ambitions? I heard he is vehemently anti-Putin (or is he?), what political platform does he stand for and what is his views? Would you vote for him (vs a potential Putin nominee/Putin himself)? He was demonstrating outside Khodorkovsky's trial as far as I remember...

What do the NAROD say?

i heard he got beaten by some cops outside of the protest. Pretty funny. Just the thought of some grand master chess player getting clubbed around a llittle bit.

He may be a diva on the chessboard, but as a politician he's total loser. This is what the NAROD say.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Hello!

I was wondering what you Russians (and non Russians) think of the Kasparov's supposedly presidential ambitions? I heard he is vehemently anti-Putin (or is he?), what political platform does he stand for and what is his views? Would you vote for him (vs a potential Putin nominee/Putin himself)? He was demonstrating outside Khodorkovsky's trial as far as I remember...

What do the NAROD say?

I wonder, why you think the choice is between Kasparov and "potential Putin nominee/Putin himself"? How about some other (e.g. better) options to choose?

As for me:
1) I'm about to vote for Dmitriy Rogozin -- or, if he's not to be candidate on next election, for any politican with similar platform;
2) If I'm really faced with your (really weird) choice, I'll vote for "Putin nominee/Putin himself" -- because it's better, than voting for Kasparov.
Hope this answers your question.

I totally agree with VM and Scorpio, Каспаров - чудак на букву "м".

Originally Posted by JJ

Каспаров - чудак на букву "м".

JJ, I have an idea of what you are saying (beacause of what was said before), but what does the phrase "чудак на букву 'м'" actually mean?!

Before collapse of the USSR (in 1991 or 1990) Kasparov took part in one chess tournament and made a row. He put on his table flag of “independent Russia” (instead of the flag of the USSR as according to the law!!!). And this flag of “independent Russia” was hanged up head over heels. ))))))))))
This act marked Kasparov for me as unacceptable figure.

Originally Posted by Agnessa Ivanovna

but what does the phrase "чудак на букву 'м'" actually mean?!

Agnessa Ivanovna, check you private messages.

I see! What political platform does Kasparov stand on? Yabloka-ish?

Who is Dmitry Rogozin?

This is all very interesting to me! I appreciate all feedback!

JJ, send me also that answer

I like him, anything that gets up the knuckle-dragging Homo Soveticus' nose is OK in my book.

As for what he stands for, doesn't seem to me like he stands for much except getting rid of Putin in 2008.

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

I see! What political platform does Kasparov stand on? Yabloka-ish?

More or less. So-called "Pro-vestern liberal".

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Who is Dmitry Rogozin?

http://www.rogozin.ru/
http://www.rodina.ru/leaders/show/?id=1

I absolutely agree with Robert Fisher, read his interview in Russian:
http://www.compromat.ru/main/sport/kasparovfish.htm

about Kasparov:

Каспарова я не называю иначе как преступником. Ни по имени, ни просто Каспаров – только преступник! Я знаю, сейчас он пытается заниматься политикой, идет против президента Путина. Для меня поход Каспарова против президента Путина – достаточный повод, чтобы выразить президенту Путину одобрение и полную поддержку. Каспаров – олицетворение зла. Если вы проверите его на детекторе лжи, убедитесь, что он – лжец!

scotcher, how come you have a grudge against the Homo Soveticus? I thought you were married to a Russian woman. We're all Homo Soveticae (sorry, didn't do latin at school - how do you build plural from this one?), including your wife and your in-laws. There's nothing wrong with being a Homo Soveticus. Homo Soveticae have gone into space, Homo Soveticae have written books, Homo Soveticae have composed music, Homo Soveticae have cured people... Not everybody was born a Homo Scotum.

Originally Posted by Welf

I absolutely agree with Robert Fisher, read his interview in Russian:
http://www.compromat.ru/main/sport/kasparovfish.htm

about Kasparov:

Каспарова я не называю иначе как преступником. Ни по имени, ни просто Каспаров – только преступник! Я знаю, сейчас он пытается заниматься политикой, идет против президента Путина. Для меня поход Каспарова против президента Путина – достаточный повод, чтобы выразить президенту Путину одобрение и полную поддержку. Каспаров – олицетворение зла. Если вы проверите его на детекторе лжи, убедитесь, что он – лжец!

Bobby Fisher is the well-known hysteric man. I don't think that we must listen to him. But I agree, Kasparov is trying to take not his place.

Originally Posted by VendingMachine

scotcher, how come you have a grudge against the Homo Soveticus? I thought you were married to a Russian woman. We're all Homo Soveticae (sorry, didn't do latin at school - how do you build plural from this one?), including your wife and your in-laws. There's nothing wrong with being a Homo Soveticus. Homo Soveticae have gone into space, Homo Soveticae have written books, Homo Soveticae have composed music, Homo Soveticae have cured people... Not everybody was born a Homo Scotum.

I think we must have different definitions of homo sovieticus. The way the term was explained to me, none of my family qualify, and very few of my Russian friends do either (though there are a couple who do).

Definitions aside, I'll let you to figure out what I understood it to mean for yourself.

do put me out of my misery and tell me, scotcher. (in pm, if you like)

Originally Posted by Welf

I absolutely agree with Robert Fisher, read his interview in Russian:
http://www.compromat.ru/main/sport/kasparovfish.htm

about Kasparov:

Каспарова я не называю иначе как преступником. Ни по имени, ни просто Каспаров – только преступник! Я знаю, сейчас он пытается заниматься политикой, идет против президента Путина. Для меня поход Каспарова против президента Путина – достаточный повод, чтобы выразить президенту Путину одобрение и полную поддержку. Каспаров – олицетворение зла. Если вы проверите его на детекторе лжи, убедитесь, что он – лжец!

Yes I wouldn't take the opinion of our friend Bobby Fisher, he is extremely paranoid. What is it with grandmasters in chess and, dare I say it, mental problems?

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

... he is extremely paranoid.

This is the very word ("paranoid") that kept popping up in my mind as I was reading the article .