Thread: "Russophobia" and "Russophilia" :)

That's not true

If it's not true - it's Wikipedia who's to blame, not me. I'm not a specialist on Norway, all I know is Norway and Russia are too different countries to make valid comparisons. It's you who began to compare them.

You started to discuss cuases of high prises having no idea what the prices really are. (I don't take into account provided links to Ukrainian media)
Half of this thread is full of basles cpeculations like this

I know what the prices were last summer there, because I was in Crimea last summer and I know what the prices really were. Some of them were really lower, especially strong alcohol beverages, some of them slightly lower - such as sausages and meat, some of them were about as high as in Russia, such as bread, some of them were in fact higher - that is dairy products. If they have risen twice by now, they should be far higher than those in continental Russia now.

If you don't believe me, here is a link to an old article dated by 2009. Цены в Крыму растут к лету
As you can see, the prices in Crimea were not very lower than in Russia even then especially in summer:

25 апреля 2009 Эльви Усманова

Цены в Крыму растут к лету

Еда и питье , Цены

В Крыму в магазинах и лавках можно найти любые товарыВ Крыму продукты стоят несколько дешевле, чем в Москве и Петербурге, однако и особой дешевизны тоже нет - не Индия. А в сезон в Ялте цена на черешню может быть даже выше, чем в Москве. Цены на продукты в марте-апреле 2009 года в Симферополе, Севастополе, на Южном берегу Крыма были такие...

В скобках даны примерные цены в рублях

Продукты:
Растительное масло 12-14 грн/л (60-70 руб.)
Масло сливочное 200-грамм 6 грн (30 руб.)
Хлеб – 2,3-3,5 грн (буханка или батон) (18 руб.)

Мясо:

Говядина – 25-40 грн (125-200 руб)

свинина - 20-40 грн/кг (100-200р)
сало – от 10 грн/кг (50р)


Рыба
судак - от 22 грн/кг (130р),
пеленгас – от 17 грн/кг (100р),
сельдь – от 12 грн/кг (100р)

Курица – 18-30 грн/кг (филе – 32 грн/кг) (100-150р)
Вареная колбаса - от 30 грн (150р)
Копченая колбаса - от 37 грн (185р)

Молочные продукты:
молоко – 4-7 грн/л (20-35р)
кефир – 3,5-7 грн/л (18-35р)
ряженка - 4,5-7 грн/л (22-35)
сметана – 14-15 грн/л (70-75р)
творог – 25-30 грн/кг (120 - 150р)
сыр – от 35 грн/кг (175 р)
плавленный сыр – от 15 грн/кг) (75 р)

Яйца – 6,5-8 грн за 10 штук (35-50р)

Овощи:

картошка разных сортов 2-7 грн/кг (10-35 руб.)

капуста – 3-5 грн/кг (15-25 руб.)
зелень – 1,5-2 грн за пучок (7-10 руб.)
морковь 5 грн/кг (25 руб.)
помидоры – 9-12 грн/кг (45- 60 руб.)
лук – 6-7 грн/кг (30-35 руб.)
огурцы – 3-5 грн/кг (15-25 руб.)

Фрукты:
яблоки - 20-25 грн/кг (120р)
бананы – 6 грн/кг (35р)
апельсины – 9 грн/кг (55р)
черешня – 15 грн/кг (75р)
кабачки – 3-4 грн/кг (18-24р)

Спиртные напитки:
коньяк - от 24 грн/бутылка 0.5 (120р)
вино – «Массандра» - 18-60 грн/бутылка (120-360р)
«Коктебель» - 19-35 грн/бутылка (120-240)
«Инкерман» - 18-40 грн/бутылка (120-240р)
водка – от 18 грн/бутылка 0.5 (120р)
пиво - от 2.50 грн/бутылка 0.5 (15р)

Напитки:
минеральная вода - от 2 грн/л (12р)
сок - 5-10 грн/л (35-60р)
сок 3 литра - 11-15 грн (60-80р)

PS. Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know what "basles" means.

Originally Posted by SergeMak

It's you who began to compare them.

I didn't. I suggested to recall what they do produce. But you quoted wikipedia (very credible source) about oil income of state budget instead.

I know what the prices were last summer there, because I was in Crimea last summer and I know what the prices really were. Some of them were really lower, especially strong alcohol beverages, some of them slightly lower - such as sausages and meat, some of them were about as high as in Russia, such as bread, some of them were in fact higher - that is dairy products. If they have risen twice by now, they should be far higher than those in continental Russia now.

If you don't believe me, here is an old link to an article dated by 2009. Цены в Крыму растут к лету
As you can see, the prices in Crimea were not very lower than in Russia even then especially in summer:

I still cant see where does it say that they are twice higher.

I usually don't believe any "aricles" and reports.
What about prices in Crimea I think the best source would be photos of store and gas station prices fron ppl who are there now.
I hope soon i'll get some.

PS. Oh, I'm sorry, I don't know what "basles" means.

must be "baseless" - a typo. (i'm working here, sorry)