Thread: Russian Politician wants Russia to use the Euro, to "save" it....

Originally Posted by Ramil

Shariah-controlled zone signs appearing in parts of the UK

If someone in Russia puts a sign saying "Heil Hitler" on a wall, will it give you a reason to call the entire state fascist?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

If someone in Russia puts a sign saying "Heil Hitler" on a wall, will it give you a reason to call the entire state fascist?

If these appear regularly and in so many places at once then the answer to your question would probably be yes.

And, Hanna, what's so nice about Sharia law?

And, Hanna, what's so nice about Sharia law?

Except music and concerts - I'm not against that the rest of things in that sign are banned in my neighbourhood

If these appear regularly and in so many places at once then the answer to your question would probably be yes.

One nutjob in Daugavpils recently put up many signs which read that Latgale should secede from Latvia and join Russia.
These Sharia law signs might be similar.

And, Hanna, what's so nice about Sharia law?

Not everything about Islam is bad! It has some good points. A friend of mine is moslem and she explained it to me. Some of it sounded both sensible and good. I don't hate it at all.
I just don't want large numbers of moslems in Europe and I think that the moslems who come to Europe should adapt themselves. I wouldn't mind it at all if they became Christians.
But what religion they have and how they apply it in their own countries is not my business.

Originally Posted by nulle

Like Latvian Legionnaires who were extradited back to USSR and died in GULAG?
And only after more than 50 years Sweden apologized for that.

Gosh nothing escapes you! It was 60 years ago! But yes, I've heard about this... but I thought the people in question were Estonian Nazis....? But regardless, I agree that handing them back to the USSR while Stalin and Beria were still alive was wrong. Several of them seriously harmed themselves because they thought that would delay things. They must have been really scared. Tons of Nazis went to Sweden after the war, these would not have made any difference. Or they could have simply been thrown out, but not to the USSR.

Sweden later "made up" for this by trying to "rescue" some Baltic people from prison in the USSR. The USSR handed over a bunch of people who they said were political prisoners. But as it turned out, they were absolute gangsters and definitely belonged in prison! They started up a sort of Baltic mafia that smuggled all sorts of stuff and ocassionally killed people on the Baltic sea ferries. My grandfather was the manager of a terminal for Baltic sea freight ships and had lots of trouble with this gang.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Not everything about Islam is bad! It has some good points. A friend of mine is moslem and she explained it to me. Some of it sounded both sensible and good. I don't hate it at all.
I just don't want large numbers of moslems in Europe and I think that the moslems who come to Europe should adapt themselves. I wouldn't mind it at all if they became Christians.
But what religion they have and how they apply it in their own countries is not my business.

It seems you're mixing up Islam and Sharia. I totally agree with you about European Muslims having to integrate, though.

Sharia is a part of islam. There is no "light" version of Islam. I think it's too harsh, and I think it's punisments are too grim. But fundamentally the idea is to create a good society. It's just that moslems have a different idea about what is a good society than we have...

Originally Posted by nulle

Except music and concerts - I'm not against that the rest of things in that sign are banned in my neighbourhood .

Probably not, but Sharia law also presumes that theft must be punished by cutting the arms off and women who cheat on their husbands are to be stoned by a crowd. There is much more in Sharia law. Many nicer things, I'm sure you'll appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Hanna

But fundamentally the idea is to create a good society.

Yeah, the Holy Inquisition wanted the same thing, actually. Come on, people, those laws are medieval, it's not XI-th century, its XXI-st.
Actually Islam 'evolves' pretty much like Christianity. It's now dark ages there, but there will be an islamic Martin Luther and the Reformation. I'm sure it will be a very interesting time for the muslims.

Why would Russia want to save or join EU/Euro? How absurd. The EU is run by elites and bankers.... EU members are, coincidentally, going broke and ultimate goal may be a global currency (think: if many EU countries and their countries collapse, US collapses... and so on....). It's not out of realm of possibility if you think about it.

Da, naysayers will scoff but to suggest Russia should or wants any part of the EU is mere fantasy. Putin or whoever is at helm and Russia's own elites might want a piece of the action when they solidify the profits/proceeds but any arrangement would be to take a share of profit.

What the Russian politician probably means is to join in on the thievery.

Originally Posted by Ramil

Actually Islam 'evolves' pretty much like Christianity. It's now dark ages there, but there will be an islamic Martin Luther and the Reformation. I'm sure it will be a very interesting time for the muslims.

Actually there was such a person and his name was Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

Originally Posted by it-ogo

there will be an Islamic Martin Luther and the Reformation.

Actually there was such a person and his name was Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.

Уффф, зто замечание и сравнение можно толковаться очень по-разному!

(As always, correct my Russian, but I mean to say: "Wow, that comment and comparison can be interpreted in several very different ways!")

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

Уффф, зто замечание и сравнение можно толковаться очень по-разному! ...

может толковаться или можно толковать

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

Уффф, зто замечание и сравнение можно толковаться очень по-разному!

Salafism is rather close to Protestantism ideologically and has many similar features. Its purpose was to come to the origin of the religion, to get rid of corrupted religious organizations and to introduce God's law to the life of regular people more immediately.

Originally Posted by it-ogo

Salafism is rather close to Protestantism ideologically and has many similar features. Its purpose was to come to the origin of the religion, to get rid of corrupted religious organizations and to introduce God's law to the life of regular people more immediately.

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