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    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    I certainly do not want to see this near my hometown.
    Russian tanks roll towards Tbilisi - 14 August 2008 - YouTube
    Wow? Where did you get that? I thought everything was destroyed by FSB.

    I thouhgt only lying Putin's propaganda like this remained:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE1WNJOfnHY

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    So if someone is beaten on the street - it's his problem?
    A false analogy? OK. But even with this example, it's more or less true. Whose problem is it? If that someone is alone and has no relatives, etc then yes. Police? Don't make me laugh. Even in the most democratic country.

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    Dictatorships are not what people prefer.
    Dictatorship is only good for dictator and his henchmen.
    That's also not true. 95% of population will prefer someone to tell them what to do. Human brains consume too much energy and thinking is a very demanding process. Evolution arranged it so that we didn't like to think. It's difficult to think all time, it's quite easier to let someone think for you. If that what you wrote was true, we would have gotten rid of all dictatorships already.
    Laughingly, even in democratic countries people like sheep believe in EVERY piece of BS their governments are feeding them through the media, and that's a big problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    If anyone does not like it - he is killed or otherwise silenced.
    or simply ignored, how democrats prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    Democracy is slow, expensive and inefficient, but it is the ONLY form of government that has feedback from people.
    O'RLY? Even dictators listen to their subjects. And dictators receive more feedback from people than democratic leader who usually ignore their subjects completely once the election day is over. Dictators listen to people's minds via the secret police, and spies. Dictators inspire their subjects to spy and delate each other. LOL It's true, by the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    Only democratically elected government can be at least partially called "what people prefer".
    And only democratic countries have "self determination".
    O'RLY? Who told you that? Your teacher? Care to elaborate? What exactly is 'self determination' of a country? I hate something or someone you like, you hate someone or something I like. We dislike each other, live in the same country and we need our country to determine itself. Instead of having a general brawl we vote. OK. Majority rule, right? OK, but what about the minorities? Should I trust you (whom I dislike) enough to represent my interests?

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    That is how democratic country's parliament's history should look like:
    http://www.db.lv/uploads/article/002...1316528556.jpg
    Tautas Partija and Latvijas Ceļš fucked up - so they now do not have any representation in parliament.
    Without revolution or bloodshed.
    A very educating picture, by the way. You had 8 parties, now you only have 5. In 20-30 years (your democracy is still very young) there will be only 1 or two left (if nothing major happens in the world). And then I think you'll remember what we were talking about today.

    Quote Originally Posted by nulle View Post
    Putin can do whatever he wants - he will probably rule till the end of his life - if Russians do not start a revolution (and possibly civil war too).
    Unfortunately, Russian people are no exception to my thesis about 'people do not like to think and prefer someone to tell us what to do' so I don't think we're in any danger of revolution. United Russia will get their share of votes. Even if the elections were honest they would still get the majority. I'm practically sure about that. Alas, people are stupid.
    Send me a PM if you need me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Wow? Where did you get that? I thought everything was destroyed by FSB.

    I thouhgt only lying Putin's propaganda like this remained:
    The crimes of georgian's army in S. Ossetia. - YouTube
    Никогда не забуду, как Fox News обгадились в собственные штаны.
    The Fox News guests' tale about the Fox (Eng Subs) Part 1 - YouTube
    English Edition

    В обычных странах церковь отделена от государства, а в России - от Бога.

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