Thread: Korean Airlines Flight 007 survivors and other alleged conspiracies

For example, the theory that there were explosives inside the WTC buildings overlooks the fact that it generally takes a LARGE TEAM of demolition experts (= more co-conspirators) to place the explosives for the controlled demolition of a tall building. In principle, it could be done by fewer people, but then it requires much more time, increasing the risk that the explosives would be accidentally discovered by employees in the building.

Вы думаете, что какие-то террористы смогли обмануть ЦРУ, ФБР и прочие американские структуры, а ЦРУ и ФБР не смогли бы обмануть простых работников?!

Originally Posted by Marcus

Вы думаете, что какие-то террористы смогли обмануть ЦРУ, ФБР и прочие американские структуры...

Как "обмануть"? The terrorists had valid visas and were living legally in the US, along with millions of law-abiding Muslim immigrants among whom they were able to hide themselves. They wisely choose to use simple box-cutter blades, and thus avoided drawing attention by purchasing guns or materials for explosives. They purchased their plane tickets legally. In short, they were extremely well-behaved, and there was no reason for the CIA or FBI to take much notice of them, until 11 September, когда они вдруг вели себя ОЧЕНЬ некультурно и по-хамски!

Also, again, я думаю, что вы слишком высоко оцениваете способности ЦРУ. If the term "total cluster fuck" did not already exist in US military slang, the CIA would make it necessary to invent the term! Not to disrespect them, because most of them are highly conscientious people who do the best they can at a difficult job, but real life is not a Hollywood movie, and in real life, the CIA has often made embarrassing errors.

Originally Posted by Marcus

...а ЦРУ и ФБР не смогли бы обмануть простых работников?!

First, consider these words of wisdom from Abraham Lincoln: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."

To paraphrase this, I am doubtful that the "ЦРУ и ФБР" could have fooled enough of the "простые работники", for a long enough time, to have placed explosives in the buildings without detection (which would have probably taken several weeks at minimum, because the buildings are so large, and because the explosives would have to be smuggled in a little bit at a time).

In addition to the thousands of office workers, the WTC buildings had a huge staff of cleaning people, elevator technicians, security guards, heating/air-conditioning specialists, electricians, fire inspectors, etc. -- many of whom normally had access to the "hidden" areas where any explosives would logically be hidden. And these people did not all have the same employer -- some were actually employees of the New York Port Authority that owned the WTC, while others were employed by outside contractors, and thus the minimum number of co-conspirators is increased.

But anyway, why bother with explosives in the buildings? If the CIA/FBI team was as clever and omnipotent as you believe, then wouldn't it have been rather simple for them to "fake hijack" four FedEx cargo planes full of fertilizer, diesel fuel, and C4, instead of using passenger planes? This would have guaranteed HUGE fiery explosions without a need to put bombs in the buildings, while at the same time avoiding the risk of passenger rebellion, as in the case of United Airlines Flight 93 that failed to reach its target and crashed in a Pennsylvania field.

For that matter, they could've gotten a much higher number of deaths (your claim is that the goal was to create an artificial casus belli, remember!) by hitting the WTC towers at, say, the 25th floor, and in the early afternoon rather than in the early morning (easily 30,000 deaths that way, instead of 3,000).