Thread: Future of Eastern Ukraine? / Будущее Восточной Украины?

Originally Posted by Basil77

Zero chances, unfortunately. Russian public opinion after yesterday's massacre in Odessa changed drastically according to what I hear around me. People think that Putin is a pussy and demand full-scale invasion and second Nurnberg tribunal for Kiev junta.

Sad to admit, he has been quiet for far too long. However, it's understandable. To start WW3 or not to start WW3? A tough question. Figuratively speaking, Russian speaking population in Ukraine is taken hostage. The condition - "Step into the shi~ we've prepared for you, or they shall burn. And when you do, we'll make you pay and apologize for another several decades. Sincerely yours, western friends."
A clever plan. Clever and inhuman.

Originally Posted by DrBaldhead

Sad to admit, he has been quiet for far too long. However, it's understandable. To start WW3 or not to start WW3? A tough question. Figuratively speaking, Russian speaking population in Ukraine is taken hostage. The condition - "Step into the shi~ we've prepared for you, or they shall burn. And when you do, we'll make you pay and apologize for another several decades. Sincerely yours, western friends."
A clever plan. Clever and inhuman.

You do realize you're basically saying people in Ukraine get burned for speaking Russian? How clever is that???

I don't think the attitude for Russian speaking people in Ukraine pretty much differs from that for Ukrainian speaking people in Russia. But now imagine the Ukrainian community in Russia demanding that Ukrainian be the second official state language, what would you think?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

But now imagine the Ukrainian community in Russia demanding that Ukrainian be the second official state language, what would you think?

Ukrainian is already the second official state language in the subject of Russian Fedration - Crimean Republic along with Russian and Crimean Tatarian, according to new Crimean Constitution:

Originally Posted by wikipedia

11 апреля 2014 года на внеочередном заседании Госсовета была утверждена Конституция Республики Крым . Конституция состоит из 10 глав и 95 статей, её основные положения схожи со статьями Основного закона РФ. Согласно новой Конституции, Республика Крым (РК) является демократическим, правовым государством в составе Российской Федерации и равноправным субъектом РФ. Источником власти в РК является её народ — часть многонационального народа РФ. Республика Крым имеет три государственных языка — русский, украинский и крымско-татарский. Высшим должностным лицом является глава республики, который избирается депутатами Госсовета Крыма сроком на пять лет и не может замещать эту должность более двух сроков подряд^[20].

This means that any official document written in Ukrainian has the same legal power as a document written in Russian.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

You do realize you're basically saying people in Ukraine get burned for speaking Russian? How clever is that???

I do realize that you are twisting my words. Don't be silly, you did understand what I meant.
Moreover, do you really believe that those blood hungry nazi shall stop at Odessa or South-East? Remember "the previous nazi". And don't be amazed when even you will be forced to hide your relation with Russian culture via the language when your turn comes.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I don't think the attitude for Russian speaking people in Ukraine pretty much differs from that for Ukrainian speaking people in Russia. But now imagine the Ukrainian community in Russia demanding that Ukrainian be the second official state language, what would you think?

You mean Ukrainian language that even the majority of Ukraine population doesn't speak? How clever is that?
Also you might have forgot that your government didn't want to give Russian language even the regional status.
Besides, Crimea now has even 3 official languages: Russian, Ukrainian and Crimean Tatarian. All three are totally equal. As a republic in a federation, they can have it now.

Originally Posted by DrBaldhead

Also you might have forgot that your government didn't want to give Russian language even the regional status.

What government do you assume is mine?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

What government do you assume is mine?

The one you seem to be trying to justify.

Originally Posted by DrBaldhead

The one you seem to be trying to justify.

Just in case, I'm not Ukrainian. And I'm not trying to justify any government, I'm trying to get the whole picture of what's been happening in that area, but I also have my own opinion of course, which is, people who try to keep their country up and running are prevalent over those trying to tear it to pieces.

And by the way, I see no point in discussing the Ukrainian interim government much at all, as they have an election in 3 weeks, and so the current one is going off the stage pretty soon.