View Poll Results: What will happen during 2014 and after that?

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  • Eastern Ukraine will continue to be governed from Kiev after UA military has restored order

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will manage to achieve autonomous status within Ukraine.

    1 5.00%
  • Ukraine will become a federal republic with more freedom for Eatern Ukraine

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will declare independence and become a new country or "breakaway republic"

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukranie will be annexed to Russia following a military intervention by Russia

    2 10.00%
  • The area will descend into chaos, civil unrest and/or civil war for a long time to come

    8 40.00%
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Thread: Future of Eastern Ukraine? / Будущее Восточной Украины?

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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    П.С. Интересно, сколько среди разбившихся и задохнувшихся в Одессе окажется россиян и найдется ли там хоть один одессит?

    What a horrible tragedy for Ukraine.

    First of all, I don't know how they can be sure that these people are Russian. Did they have some documentation or something on them. Seems a bit odd to bring your passport as you go to commit illegal activities.

    Secondly; I read that many among the killed where Russian passport holders from Pridnestrovie, a.k.a Transdniestr. No pont speculating though, until the victims are named.

    And whether you would call that "Russians" or not, I don't know - I don't think most there are ethnic Russians - it's a "melting pot". The article that I read did not discuss what these alleged Russian/Pridnestrovians were doing in this union building in Odessa. It's 1-2 hours by car from there. Why would they want to go to Odessa to create havoc, what would be the motivation?
    Perhaps they are hoping for Russian intervention all the way to Tiraspol(?)

    (Photo is deleted. Too graphic. L.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77 View Post
    Мы женаты 12 лет как, и она давно гражданка РФ. Украинский паспорт хранила как сувенир. Я сегодня от сего сувенира избавился. Не хочу после сегодняшнего, чтобы мои дети имели хоть что-то общее с бывшим государством под названием "Украина".
    Ok but she/you have family, don't you? Which part of the country do they live in? Does your wife's family's views concur with hers and yours?


    Putin and Lavrov are so much sharper with foreign policy than the US etc.
    No doubt they have a plan, but what is it? Have they already decided to let things disintegrate into utter chaos and let Ukraine become like some 3rd world country in Africa - never intervening no matter what? Perhaps it serves Russia in some perverse way..
    Or are they just waiting for the right moment to step in? Or is there something else going on? Is this a powerplay against NATO?

    What's happening in Ukraine now will go down as Political Science classic history in the future. It's very unique and happening in Europe to boot.
    Last edited by Lampada; May 3rd, 2014 at 03:04 AM. Reason: Picture is too graphic

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