I read something brief about explosions in the underground, in Minsk.
Does anyone know what it was about; who did it, and why?
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I read something brief about explosions in the underground, in Minsk.
Does anyone know what it was about; who did it, and why?
Western special services did it. They want to destabilize the situation in Belorussia, to encourage Belorussian people against their government because it is in alliance with Russia and collaborates with Russia. Ханна, можно я буду отвечать по-русски?
As Putin would say: "It exploded."Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna
Belorussian authorities said they already arrested guys who did it according to stationary camera records. All the rest is an intensive conspirology.
Да пожалуйста :-) Мне интересоваться об этом.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Да, пожалуйста. Мне это интересно или я интересуюсь этим.Quote:
Да пожалуйста Мне интересоваться об этом.
А чем "этим" вы интересуетесь? Я не очень понял, вы интересуетесь терактом или языком.
Could you share with us the way 'western special services' can possibly get into that country? And also, how did 'those agents' manage to suddenly become their local turner and electrician? Or you disagree with the official version of their authorities? If so, that's a real surprise...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Касаемо теракта. Тайна, ёлки, покрытая мраком. Задержали там каких-то подозреваемых, но не пойму я, хоть убей, зачем даже душевнобольным взрывать белорусов. Вот не пойму, и всё. Да, я понимаю, что задержанные по делу о теракте уже признали свою вину, а также сознались в убийстве JFK и много в чём ещё. Вот только людей жаль. Они-то почему погибли? Кому они помешали?
При их финансовых возможностях и при сравнительной открытости и слабости Белоруссии это сделать не очень трудно. Советские шпионы проникли в тайны создаваемого в США ядерного оружия, чему после этого ещё можно удивляться?Quote:
Could you share with us the way 'western special services' can possibly get into that country?
Я боюсь, что Лукашенко просто нашёл крайних и выбил из них признания, хотя всё может быть. По большому счёту не важно, кто исполнитель, важно, кто заказчик и каковы его цели, а здесь у меня сомнений нет.Quote:
And also, how did 'those agents' manage to suddenly become their local turner and electrician? Or you disagree with the official version of their authorities? If so, that's a real surprise...
I thought it was one of the most closed countries ever. No one in, no one out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Then what are the links between those "customers" and those two poor "executors", in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Wherever did u get that idea? Just today, I recieved my visa for Belarus. I'll go there in two weeks. That's why I was asking about the explosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric C.
They seem really keen on tourism, just not according to the to the standard European model.
Actually, a visa to Russia is not entirely uncomplicated or fast, but a visa for Belarus is simple. Took me under 24 hours. The embassy staff was super friendly, despite the fact that I had accidentally filled in the wrong form for my application.
I'll let you know if I see any spies or dictators.... ;-) or tractors, lol!
But my reason for going is because it's a very safe Russian-speaking country (I am a woman, and travelling alone) it has really lovely nature, interesting culture & history + historic places. I know I'll be forced to speak Russian there - baptism of fire!! Happy to write a report, if anyone is interested.
I just don't understand how much people speak Belarussian, as opposed to Russian; and what language signs etc are in. For my own purposes.... I hope they don't speak Belarussian much, it would really confuse me.
Вы неправильно думали. Белорусы спокойно ездят по всему миру, если деньги есть, а в Белоруссию поехать гораздо легче, чем в США, например.Quote:
I thought it was one of the most closed countries ever. No one in, no one out...
Не знаю, меня это не волнует.Quote:
Then what are the links between those "customers" and those two poor "executors", in your opinion?
Well, I hope you do realize, at least you can't expect anyone there to speak English. Here's an article which I think would be useful for you to read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna
The Art of Non-Conformity
Don't pay much attention to what the link says, the article's actually about how an American was getting a Belarusian visa.
And sure, I'll look forward to your report on your trip there. I guess so will many of us.
В городах говорят на стандартном русском языке, в деревнях - на различных диалектах, которые можно отнести к русскому или белорусскому языкам. Часто их говор называют трясанкой. Русский язык постепенно вытесняет все говоры.
*тросянкаQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
It's a Russian/Belarusian mix, like "суржик" is a Russian/Ukrainian mix.
Почему так расставлены знаки препинания?Quote:
I read something brief about explosions in the underground, in Minsk.
Does anyone know what it was about; who did it, and why?
Это вопрос для раздела: Learn English - Грамматика, переводы, словарный запасQuote:
Originally Posted by Marcus
Yes, punctuation is different between Russian and English. Russian doesn't use commas sometimes, where English would. Sometimes it uses commas where English would not..
I decided to leave this for later. People understand, even if the commas are not in the right place.
You should be aware that a lot of native English speakers are really bad at English grammar and make mistakes when writing. Also, lots of people use English as a second language (like me, for example, and bitpicker on this forum).
Their English may be very good, but not 100% perfect.
I am looking forward for your impressions about Belarus...please don't forget to share here.
Some signs are in Belorussian, some are in Russian, but since the languages are very similar you shouldn't have problems understanding them. Everyone can speak Russian, even if Belarussian is their native language, but for majority native language is Russian.
About safety, I have to confirm that - from my experience the police are very friendly and uncorrupt compairing to Russia. Modern Belorussia reminds me USSR how it was in early 80, the good side of it.
It took 3 days to arrest the first suspects. I wish FSB worked that good.
Ok, I'll write a report on Belarus. Before that, I'll travel through Ukraine. It seems a bit more risky there, so I won't stay long, but I really want to see the Black Sea coast of Ukraine and a couple of historical places. But really, I am a bit worried about safety, and how I'll manage in Russian. Going to Ukraine (alone!!!) seemed like a really good/cool idea in London... daydreaming about going somewhere exotic & different and practice Russian... But right at this minute I am getting cold feet! On the Lonely Planet travel forum, there are lots of cautionary tales about the dangers of Ukraine... (But if people like Gromozeka and it-ogo are anything to go by, then it's probably a great country. We shall see!)
From what I understand, it's national policy in Ukraine to write signs etc in Ukrainian as opposed to Russian, despite the fact that lots of people speak Russian as their first language. For my personal reasons, I would have thought it would be better if it was bilingual, for example.
I didn't have enough time to wait for a Russia visa, that's why I start by travelling in Ukraine (does not require a visa from EU citizens) and Belarus which had a fast track visa service. If I am still enjoying the travelling when I am in Belarus, then I'll get a Russian visa there, where a faster service is available. Else, I'll save Russia for some other time.
I'm sure I'm only one of many people here who would love to hear about your trip when you return! Am very interested in Minsk, and hope to see it one day myself! Make sure you have a great tripQuote:
Originally Posted by Hanna
Я общался на одном форуме с белорусской революционеркой. Она журналист, мусульманка и очень злой человечек. Злые человечки кучкуются и самоутверждаются. Называют это революционной борьбой. Вот и вся мотивация. Поэтому я допускаю, что в Белоруссии несколько человек насмотрелись телевизора и решили бороться с режимом как чеченцы, взрывая метро.Quote:
Originally Posted by Basil77
Наши наверное из принципа не будут упрощать выдачу виз гражданам ЕС, пока ЕС не упростит получение виз для граждан РФ. Иначе у ЕС пропадёт стимул что либо упрощать.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna
Official sources as well as independent media (which I personally trust) say that there are no political intentions in terrorists actions. The immediate actor claimed that he had done it because he enjoys other people suffering. I think it's kind of mental disorder. And I'm sure if there was any little connection found between the terract and politics the government would spread it out all over the world. I totally deny a theory that it can be done under Lukashenko's order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Юрка
Я не отрицаю такую версию, но считаю её маловероятной, так как отдавшего приказ сдадут свои же. Они же видят судьбу Кучмы в соседней республике.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteKnight
=)Quote:
Originally Posted by Юрка
Россия отменит визы для шведских туристов
http://img.lenta.ru/news/2011/04/27/ferry/picture.jpg
Ну и зря.
Даааа, подвёл меня Путин. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BappaBa
Но есть три НО:
1) Шведов всего 9 миллионов.
2) Шведы хорошо вкладываются в нашу экономику (каждая третья крона вроде).
3) Хороший аргумент при переговорах с ЕС для ускорения процесса видимо не помешает.
Да опомнитесь, какой безвизовый въезд!? Самим-то не смешно? Скорее луна позеленеет.
Почему? Безвизовый режим выгоднее ЕС, чем России.Quote:
Да опомнитесь, какой безвизовый въезд!? Самим-то не смешно? Скорее луна позеленеет.
That is awesome. Are you sure it's true?Quote:
Originally Posted by BappaBa
I did not know there was a lot of Swedish investment in Russia. Or was he talking about Russian investment in Sweden?
They should start up the ferry line that used to run between St Petersburg and Stockholm. It stopped because it wasn't profitable. St Petersburg probably has better shopping than Stockholm now, and the tourism sites in St Pertersburg are amazing (I've been there twice, ages ago). I am sure lots of people in St Petersburg would enjoy a cruise to Stockholm.
Я думаю, что дело в принципе взаимности: они нам сто вопросов о Ходорковском и Абхазии, а мы им сто вопросов про безвизовый режим.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramil
Зуб даю. Вчера по ящику сказали. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna
????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Юрка
http://masterrussian.net/f15/зуб-даю-18237/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanna