Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
Neither of the two points (namely, the Ukrainian rule would be"pro-American", and that a pro-American regime at Russia's borders would threaten its sovereignty) is actually backed up by any evidence
No evidence, huh?
Victoria Nuland was not discussing who she does and who she does not want to see in the Rada?
NATO was not planning to place anti-missile systems in Poland? And now they have Ukraine - way better place for anti-missile systems. Nice step to break that disturbing nuclear parity.
Also Sevastopol port has huge strategic importance for russian Navy in the Black Sea. That needs no evidence - it's geography. Does anyone believe that after joining NATO Ukraine would allow russian Navy to stay in Crimea?

There were times when Russia believed in fairytales about "you have no enemies" and "NATO will never expand to the East". We've learned something from those.