Thread: Elections in Belarus

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

So? What it has to do with state monopoly? Some people in any country and in any economy have cr@ppy jobs, and some don't have any. This is life. I don't see anything particularly horrible in working as a village librarian either. I almost moved to a village myself at one point of life.

What about Chernobyl zone - isn't it closed and out of limits? Or are you talking about people who service some technical stuff that is left there? I would not choose it, since my interests lay in another area, but if I'd get a good offer, I'd think about it.

Maybe you haven't grasped the exact point, but it's not just about having "cr@ppy" jobs, it's about FORCING everyone (who gets the so-called "free education") to have them.

And, belarusnews, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this practice of placing on jobs was abolished in Belarus right after the collapse of USSR and reenacted in 1998.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Maybe you haven't grasped the exact point, but it's not just about having "cr@ppy" jobs, it's about FORCING everyone (who gets the so-called "free education") to have them.

Maybe it's you who haven't grasped my exact point. I don't consider all state jobs cr@ppy solely because they are state jobs. You people think for some reason that if the job is not provided by a private company it automatically makes a person an unhappy and repressed individual. I do not agree. So half of your arguments do not work for me.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

And, belarusnews, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this practice of placing on jobs was abolished in Belarus right after the collapse of USSR and reenacted in 1998.

If a state would give an opportunity either to pay for education and not to be placed on the state job, OR to get free education and be placed on the state job for some time - would you consider it an improvement?

I got a completely free education (didn't pay for it). Including a top boarding school (practically free) and 4 years of university (including a monthly stipend to live off).

I would have thought it reasonable if the state had asked me to take on an assignment in a designated role for a couple of years after that. In fact, it's a good way for new graduates to get experience without having to apply for jobs on the open market. I don't see a problem with this at all.

In my case, I promptly left the country that sponsored my education.... and became a contributor to the British economy and a tax payer there! Pretty bad, but I didn't consider that, at the time.

I don't think any of us who don't live in Belarus need to tell the forum members from there what is good or bad in their country!
I am sure they are already well aware of that.

But personally I wish everyone there the best - And that doesn't necessarily involve 10 years of crazy cowboy capitalism like Russia and Ukraine had. Unless the Belarussians themselves (without external influence) decide that this is a price is worth paying in order to pave the way for a future market economy.

And I am not sure that any EU countries that allow "torture flights" to Guantamo, participate in the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns and export "execution drugs" to the US.... need to lecture Belarus about human rights. I am very irritated that it doesn't seem to be possible for any media to mention the word Belarus without immediately starting to talk about "dictatorship" and "human rights abuse".
I am sure there is some truth to the allegations. But there is clearly a smear campaign going on.

Originally Posted by Hanna

I am very irritated that it doesn't seem to be possible for any media to mention the word Belarus without immediately starting to talk about "dictatorship" and "human rights abuse".

That sounds like you've been living there and know for sure what's going on.

To my mind, if there's just one person who lives there and confirms that human rights violation's taking place, that can be trusted.

Александр Рыгорич Лукашенка дает интервью "Вашингтон Пост"
http://static.video.yandex.ru/lite/m...0fhxg2bt.3118/

=)
Президент вызывает к себе генералов.
– Сколько у Лукашенко дивизий?
– 4 дивизии, Дмитрий Анатольевич!
– Немного. У нас не возникнут проблемы, даже если он пойдет на Москву.
– Боимся, что возникнут, Дмитрий Анатольевич: если Лукашенко пойдет на Москву, то к Москве подойдут уже сорок дивизий.
(с)

Originally Posted by BappaBa

Александр Рыгорич Лукашенка дает интервью "Вашингтон Пост"
http://static.video.yandex.ru/lite/m...0fhxg2bt.3118/

=)
Президент вызывает к себе генералов.
– Сколько у Лукашенко дивизий?
– 4 дивизии, Дмитрий Анатольевич!
– Немного. У нас не возникнут проблемы, даже если он пойдет на Москву.
– Боимся, что возникнут, Дмитрий Анатольевич: если Лукашенко пойдет на Москву, то к Москве подойдут уже сорок дивизий.
(с)

So, do I get it right, the Russian people are ready to take that "wise father" upon themselves to help the people of Belarus get rid of him? I think it's quite noble. Keep on!

немного запоздало, но все же
Белорусская деревня: TUT.BY | НОВОСТИ - Хроника исчезающей деревни: Марс 10 лет спустя - Калейдоскоп - 10.04.2011, 08:00

I suppose that unlovely lassie in Hanna's video would prefer the constitution to be amended to allow Lukashenko to be made president for life like some banana republic African dictator, then they could save themselves the expense of having elections at all! Who do you think are the likely culprits for the Minsk metro bomb?

YouTube - 13 апреля. День траура в Минске

Мои соболезнования всем пострадавшим.

Who do you think are the likely culprits for the Minsk metro bomb?

Western special services, probably American or British. They want to punish Belarus for the alliance with Russia.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Western special services, probably American or British. They want to punish Belarus for the alliance with Russia.

Ну шо на это можно сказать? Только одно: глухо как в танке.
Да, и отношения между Белоруссией и Россией сразу повредились.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Western special services, probably American or British. They want to punish Belarus for the alliance with Russia.

Wow, go on dude! You're just a unique kind of person! I always look forward to seeing your posts on such subjects!

( I usually add smilies in such posts, but here it's actually not funny, people were killed after all... )

Вспоминается Доренко: "Казалось бы, при чём здесь Лужков..."

Хоть кто-нибудь из капи принес соболезнования белорусам?

Телекомпания НТВ. Официальный сайт | Новости НТВ | Адвокаты Санникова обжалуют приговор
"...приговор он давно подписал себе сам, когда решил баллотироваться в президенты. Если ты решился изменить жизнь нашего народа, изменить жизнь нашей страны, значит, тебе прямая дорога в тюрьму."

Жаль...

Originally Posted by sperk

Телекомпания НТВ. Официальный сайт | Новости НТВ | Адвокаты Санникова обжалуют приговор
"...приговор он давно подписал себе сам, когда решил баллотироваться в президенты. Если ты решился изменить жизнь нашего народа, изменить жизнь нашей страны, значит, тебе прямая дорога в тюрьму."

Жаль...

He just ran for president... what a terrible crime... =(((

Сейчас новость прочитал.

Ажиотаж в Белоруссии: жители сметают продукты с прилавков

Всю прошедшую неделю многие жители республики не столько работали, сколько метались по магазинам в поисках чего бы еще купить. Они покупали все, что еще не успело подорожать или подорожало, но пока не очень сильно. Под ажиотажный спрос попали соль, уксус и макароны. Десятками бутылок закупались спиртные напитки, моющие средства, пустели отделы с норковыми шубами. Дефицитным товаром стали холодильники, стиральные машины, пылесосы, современные телевизоры, утюги, электрочайники, мебель и украшения из золота.

бла-бла-бла http://news.mail.ru/politics/5956968/?frommail=1

Hanna, can you buy anything to eat?