Thread: Does Communism still have a role to play, or is it dead?

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Some time back, one smart person mentioned to me that the oil crisis in the Middle East might benefit the US oil producers since the government would authorize full scale excavation of the oil reserves. Also, when the oil prices start growing uncontrollably, other fuel options become economically viable. For example:

"The global oil-shale industry began to revive at the beginning of the 21st century. In 2003, an oil-shale development program restarted in the United States. Authorities introduced a commercial leasing program permitting the extraction of oil shale and oil sands on federal lands in 2005, in accordance with the Energy Policy Act of 2005." Oil shale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

... or US can be quietly preparing for a global war

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Probably, when the immature slogans like "The US simply wants to control the entire world and the only obstacle to that is Russia" will cease to be used irresponsibly... Anyways, you got the picture.

But Crodocile, dear, US really wants to control the entine world , and unfortunately Russia is not an obstacle any more.

Originally Posted by Ramil

But Crodocile, dear, US really wants to control the entine world , and unfortunately Russia is not an obstacle any more.

They were empires of 19th century who wanted to control as much of the world as possible. USA is a national state, it wants to teach life, have profit, be the first and, occasionally, perform some charity. But unlike empires it does not want to take full responsibility of the long consequences of its policy and fate of minor peoples.

Originally Posted by it-ogo

They were empires of 19th century who wanted to control as much of the world as possible. USA is a national state, it wants to teach life, have profit, be the first and, occasionally, perform some charity. But unlike empires it does not want to take full responsibility of the long consequences of its policy and fate of minor peoples.

So, what was the empire that did care about what happened to regular people?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

So, what was the empire that did care about what happened to regular people?

All of them. Any empire treated all conquered peoples as a part of it (even if second-class part) and took care as it can. It was the "white man's burden".

Originally Posted by it-ogo

They were empires of 19th century who wanted to control as much of the world as possible. USA is a national state, it wants to teach life, have profit, be the first and, occasionally, perform some charity. But unlike empires it does not want to take full responsibility of the long consequences of its policy and fate of minor peoples.

These are neo-empires. They don't take responsibilities, they only exploit resources and their influence. Why taking responsibilities if you don't have to but still getting every other betefit?

Originally Posted by Ramil

... or US can be quietly preparing for a global war



But Crodocile, dear, US really wants to control the entine world , and unfortunately Russia is not an obstacle any more.

Well I hope for a comeback by Russia. Maybe in a decade or so, if Russia can take control over some of the problems it's still dealing with.

I don't by any means idolize Russia or see it as perfect in any way. It could turn evil...
But at the moment I like it better than the USA because it is just more honest and straightforward. No BS about promoting democracy and freedom by doing the opposite, and no excessive meddling in other countries' business. Plus Russians in general don't think they are Gods gift to the world and always right about everything. And it's not hard to like practically any country better than China. So I support Russia as the underdog superpower!
But it has a lot of work to do to sort itself out!

If the EU has some kind of miracle transformation and everyone learns to work together, and the EU stops driving eveyrone crazy with bureacracy and irritating foreign policy... then I'd support the EU of course.