Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
Croc, that's sophistry and you know it.
Not really. The ancient Greek democracy has very little to do with the today's democracy and you know it.

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That 'equal say' part is not working. It never worked, anyway, but some stubborn people still maintain that there is some democratic forms of government.
I think I gave a different definition for the democracy, so you can't really drag me down that way.

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Those in power are liars and hypocrites. Everyone, in any country. No exeptions.
That's true.

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You can't rule people without deceiving them.
Yes, we can! (TM) There are lots of ways and the first, but not the least, is to make them afraid you'll cause them some physical damage. And you don't have to deceive, but you can take one person off the crowd and beat him to death, then go for the second one and then the crowd becomes afraid and will do whatever you want. No deceptions. The deception (to make the people believe they want the same thing that you want is perhaps the softest way of ruling (and children safe too).

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The so called 'democracy' as we see it now - is the worst form of government ever because the rulers not only abuse their power, they try their best to put an image of 'equal rights, equal possibilities and justice for all' into the heads of their subjects. A bloodiest dictatorship is at least honest in that part.
As I mentioned eariler, I respectfully disagree (and I already gave you the reason). Also, there are all kinds of time-proven deceptions that are used by the democracies and the dictatorships alike (e.g. the patriotism when applied to protect the government you might dislike).

Also, speaking of the sophistry... a master who beats his slave to death might be honest in his part - and you can call me a sophist here - but I prefer a picture of a motivational speaker who tries to put a spark in the workers to make them work hard. That's my math.