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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post

    If they get more time in power, will they get better, or worse? Will they use the time to achieve positive changes that benefit normal people? Or just to make themselves richer and impossible to get rid of?

    One of the problems with democracy is that it is hard for any good and well intentioned political party to achieve major positive change when he constantly has to worry about approval ratings and the next election. There are examples of when it can be good to give them a chance to get on with the work without the distraction of elections. Singapore is a good example.

    On the other hand, once a party knows it can not lose power.... the possibilities for corruption and abuse start.
    The Unated Russia have been in power already for 10 years. What else prove is needed to show that they didn't do life better? 10 years is enough ! At least to show your intentions. And all we can see is that during this time they got reacher and people got to live worse. They lifted salaries, but prices lifted much more, they cancel free school education, abolish academies, lift taxes, almost abolish small bussiness etc.



    I can see clearly the policy of United Russia through this interview: they steal from people and when asked by people "why do we live so bad" the answer: "It's all US'doing!" It makes me laugh seeing Navalny adduce prooves by reading in order names and their doings, and meanwhile Fedorov go: It's all CIA's doing! you are working for America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukionna View Post
    .......They lifted salaries, but prices lifted much more, they cancel free school education, abolish academies, lift taxes, almost abolish small bussiness etc (.......) they steal from people and when asked by people "why do we live so bad" the answer: "It's all US'doing!" It makes me laugh seeing Navalny adduce prooves by reading in order names and their doings, and meanwhile Fedorov go: It's all CIA's doing! you are working for America!
    That sounds crap!
    Probably, America WOULD like Russia to be more like itself (pay for everything, some really rich people and some really poor... etc, etc)
    But to blame the USA for their own mistakes and shortcomings is just a lame excuse!

    So who is a "typical" United Russia voter? Rich people, pensioners... or who?

    The majority of Russians are not very rich, right? So why do they vote for a party that privatises public services and makes them poorer?
    Wouldn't it be more logical for them to vote for something like Social Democrats, that would make things cheaper for them and stop the "elite" getting super-rich... and tax the rich people serviously ... (or maybe Social democrats don't exist in Russia?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    So who is a "typical" United Russia voter? Rich people, pensioners... or who?
    It doesn't matter who votes. It matters who counts the votes (J. Stalin)
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    В обычных странах церковь отделена от государства, а в России - от Бога.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    So who is a "typical" United Russia voter? Rich people, pensioners... or who?
    Various people. First, all state employees, police officers, military, etc. are almost forced to vote for UR by their superiors. They are organized to go to vote with their co-workers, also they being fed bullsh1t like: "there will be a hidden camera installed in voting cabin and if some of you will vote against UR, he will be immediately fired from your current job." This is nonsense of course (about cameras) but many people are still afraid. Second, the people who are satisfied with the current state of affairs and don't want any changes or the people who believes that United Russia is a "lesser evil" and anything else would be much worse (United Russia and Putin in particular always plays on these feelings of people like: "You do not want to vote for United Russia, don't you? Maybe you are going to vote for some liberals? Be ready to return to the chaos of 90s then."). Third, the state and municipal officials themselves and their family members. These groups give United Russia about 30% of votes. The rest are usually falsified.
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77 View Post
    They are organized to go to vote with their co-workers, also they being fed bullsh1t like: "there will be a hidden camera installed in voting cabin and if some of you will vote against UR, he will be immediately fired from your current job."
    I have never heard of anything of the sort. Would you mind providing some evidence?

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