Проигрываем

Мой интерес превлекло это предложение:

«Да я что-то заметил за собой… Как только начинаю много говорить в плей-офф, мы сразу проигрываем». (источник)

Подумал, как его лучше перевести на английский. Думаю о двух вариантах:

A. And I've noticed something about myself… As soon as I start talking a lot during a play-off, we immediately lose.
B. And I've noticed something about myself… As soon as I start talking a lot during a play-off, we immediately start to lose.

Первый вариант дословен. Второй вариант по-английски звучит лучше. Но оправдан ли перевод? Ваши замечания?

Второй вариант больше подходит и по смыслу.

We are looking forward that he will keep his mouth shut while in Switzerland (from April 24 to May 10). :)

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Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

We are looking forward that he will keep his mouth shut while in Switzerland (from April 24 to May 10). :)

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Better: "We are looking forward to him keeping his mouth shut while in Switzerland."

Actually, I think in terms of schoolbook English we should say "to his keeping his mouth shut," but the "him" version sounds a lot better to me.

Is it correct to make the coherence as follows?

Let us accept that
"to be looking forward" = "to hope" (roughly)
"to keep his mouth shut" = "to be silent" (roughly)

1. We are looking forward that he will keep his mouth shut
We hope that he will be silent = Мы надеемся, что он будет молчать

2. We are looking forward to him keeping his mouth shut
We hope to him being silent = Мы надеемся на него молчащего
(In Russian it is odd a little bit, the better is: Мы надеемся [увидеть] его молчащим)

3. We are looking forward to his keeping his mouth shut
We hope to his silence = Мы надеемся на его молчание

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Originally Posted by doninphxaz

Мой интерес привлекло это предложение

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Is it correct to make the coherence as follows?

Let us accept that
"to be looking forward" = "to hope" (roughly)
"to keep his mouth shut" = "to be silent" (roughly)

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by “coherence” here, but that aside, I can offer some commentary.

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1. We are looking forward that he will keep his mouth shut

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Так не говорим. За “forward” в таком контексте обязательно следует “to”, а “that” никогда.

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2. We are looking forward to him keeping his mouth shut

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Это наверно можно понять двояко:

А. Мы надеемся, что он будет молчать. We hope he'll keep silent.
Б. Мы надеемся на то, что он будет молчать. We are relying on him to keep quiet.

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We hope to him being silent

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Так не говорим.

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We hope to his silence

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Так не говорим.

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3. We are looking forward to his keeping his mouth shut

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А вот что интересно. Практически и 2 и 3 можно произнести с такой интонацией, что будут значить:

В. Если он будет разговаривать во время матча, мы рассердимся.

Вообще когда говорим что-то вроде “I'm looking forward to your visit,” мы хотим сказать «Очень жду твоего визита» или «Испытываю радость, когда думаю о твоём будущем визите» или «Я буду очень рад, когда ты приедешь».

Thanks a lot!

"coherence" I mean "matching" or "correspondence".

Оказывается, есть такие предложения, которые в переводе на английский получаются длиннее :)