Thread: кирдык

Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

Мне тоже это интересно

Вы наверное знаете, что турецкий язык принадлежит к алтайской языковой семье...

У японского есть определённое сходство с тюркскими языками:
[I (nominative) – I (genitive, i.e. "my") friend (genitive) house (dative) to-go girl (accusative) saw] – something like "I I’s friend’s house walk girl saw". If you speak Turkish, you will find similarity in the phrase structure, I think.


Но вообще родство японского с турецким, если оно и есть, - оно очень дальнее. Русский и английский ближе друг к другу

Второй родной язык - немецкий.

Несколько месяцев назад у нас на уроке речь шла о других языковых семьях, в том числе и об алтайской.

"I I’s friend’s house walk(ing; TR) girl saw" - по-турецки можно.

Я полностью согласен с вами по поводу родства.

Originally Posted by Cumulus

Второй родной язык - немецкий.

So, you speak: Turkish, German (both at the native level), good English, good Russian. Anything else ?

Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

So, you speak: Turkish, German (both at the native level), good English, good Russian. Anything else ?

Thx for the RU explanation of how to describe bi/multilingualism!

Four is enough. Quality over quantity for me.

However, I did try to take a look at other languages too. I can still read & write Hangul (Korean). As for Japanese, I used to read & write Katakana (used for foreign names to be converted into JP - looks weird), Hiragana (grammar ?), and some Kanji.

Learning a new language - one that is from another lang. group - is a time-consuming affair. No time for that atm.

Not bad, your friend spoke four languages at an amenable level! No idea how similar the languages he spoke might be, but I've heard that Georgian can be a limbo - language wise. Kudos to him.
What about you? RU, ENG. ...? Looks like you most definitely went beyond two languages.

Originally Posted by Cumulus

Learning a new language - one that is from another lang. group - is a time-consuming affair. No time for that atm.

Totally agree with you. Time is the biggest problem here. I wish I had two lives (or even more )

Originally Posted by Cumulus

Not bad, your friend spoke four languages at an amenable level! No idea how similar the languages he spoke might be, but I've heard that Georgian can be a limbo - language wise. Kudos to him.

He was born in Armenia as I know. Ih his childhood, he spent some years in neighbouirng Georgia, and some years in Daghestan (in the area where Lezgi is spoken).

As to the similarity, as I wrote, Russian and Armenian are both Indo-European, although they belong to very different branches of the same family.

Georgian is a Kartvelian language, and it is very different from anything else. Although I am currently learning the language, I like its sound, its complex but logical grammar, and its extremely rich vocabulary, with lots of synonyms and styles. There are many concepts which are expressed by native words of Georgian origin, rather than by international roots from Greek or Latin. Some examples I know: "airplane" is თვითმფრინავი [tvitmprinavi] "self-flier", "football" is ფეხბურთი [pekhburti] "i.e. foot+ball, literally" and "alpinism" is მთამსვლელობა [mtamsvleloba] "mount-walking". Although it does have foreign borrowings, especially from Greek. Christianity also highly influenced it. The word for "human" in Georgian is ადამიანი [adamiani], does it tell something ?

Lezgi is also completely different. It's a member of North-East Caucasian language family, which is indigenous to that area. It is urelated to Georgian, and unrelated to any language beyond that area. I know nothing in Lezgi, I just know it has an extremely complex sound system and an unusual grammar.

Originally Posted by Cumulus

What about you? RU, ENG. ...? Looks like you most definitely went beyond two languages.

Not too many at all. My English is still far from perfect, although it might be not that bad. I learned French long time ago, but I forgot many things since I did not use it. My Japanese is just intermediate. A little Chinese. Currently learning Georgian. I like Georgian culture very much, despite the tense political relations in the recent years between my country and Georgia. Which is very sad. I admire Georgian cuisine as well. I travelled there in my childhood years, when Georgia was a part of the USSR. I just attended the elementary school that time. And Georgia was the first place in my life I ever travelled away of my homecity. So I keep the best memories of that country, and I'm thinking of visiting it again some day.