Thread: You are not allowed to enter.

If I translate "You are not allowed to enter."
which is better, "Нельзя вам войти." or "Нельзя вам входить."?

Вам нельзя входить.

"посторонним вход воспрещен", if it's for door sign or something similar

Originally Posted by Оля

Вам нельзя входить.

или

Вам входить нельзя!


There are several clich

Olya, ST and Ramil,

Thank you very much for your explanations!

For example, the door is broken so physically impossible to enter.
In this case can I say "Нельзя вам войти." ?

you would say не можете (т.е. дверь сломана) мочь is what normally indicates some physical impossibility

Originally Posted by Yuki

Olya, ST and Ramil,

Thank you very much for your explanations!

For example, the door is broken so physically impossible to enter.
In this case can I say "Нельзя вам войти." ?

"Нельзя вам войти" is a wrong word order if your intonation is neutral.

In a situation you've described you don't need "вам" because that would mean that someone else may enter, but "you" may not. So I suggest:
Войти невозможно.
Войти нельзя.
Туда нельзя войти.
Туда нельзя попасть.
Another variants are possible too, depending on the wider context...

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by Yuki

Olya, ST and Ramil,

Thank you very much for your explanations!

.....

Туда нельзя войти.
Туда нельзя попасть.[/i]
Another variants are possible too, depending on the wider context...

"Войти нельзя." means "physically impossible" only or it may mean "not allowed to enter" as well?

Another question.

If I am very fat and the entrance is very small ( so I can not physically get in ),

is it possible to say to me "Войти вам нельзя"?

Originally Posted by Yuki

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by Yuki

Olya, ST and Ramil,

Thank you very much for your explanations!

.....

Туда нельзя войти.
Туда нельзя попасть.[/i]
Another variants are possible too, depending on the wider context...

"Войти нельзя." means "physically impossible" only or it may mean "not allowed to enter" as well?

It can be used in both cases.

Another question.

If I am very fat and the entrance is very small ( so I can not physically get in ),

is it possible to say to me "Войти вам нельзя"?

Nope.
Войти вам нельзя is theoretically possible but its usage is very limited. Practically, I could say that this particular construction is impossible (I mean the order of words).

In this situation you can say:
Вам (туда) не войти.
It is again a theoretical situation, but if you say
Вам туда не пролезть or Вы туда не пройдёте - you'll be fairly close.

Пройти means to come through while войти means to enter. So in this situation use пройти since you mean 'You won't come through'.

I'd say "вы не пройдёте" too.

"Нельзя входить" can mean physical impossiblity ( because the door is locked etc.) as well?

Originally Posted by Yuki

For example, the door is broken so physically impossible to enter.

Есть стандартная фраза "Проход закрыт".

Originally Posted by Yuki

"Нельзя входить" can mean physical impossiblity ( because the door is locked etc.) as well?

No, it means "not allowed".

Не "нельзя входить", а "Не входить"