How do you say above and beyond in Russian in the sense of
"You usually help me but today you went above and beyond"
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How do you say above and beyond in Russian in the sense of
"You usually help me but today you went above and beyond"
сегодня вы превзошли самих себя.
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Originally Posted by alexsms
Familiar singular: Сегодня ты превзошёл самого себя. Polite singular: Сегодня вы превзошли самого себя. Familiar/polite plural: Сегодня вы превзошли самих себя.
If you were speaking in the singular familiar to a girl/woman, would the construction be "Сегодня ты превзошла саму себя." ????Quote:
Originally Posted by Soft sign
I'm trying to clarify that the verb is followed by the accusative, not the genitive (which would be самой себя in the feminine singular).
From Googling, I also found the phrase "превзойти Ирода в жестокости" -- literally, "to surpass/exceed/outdo Herod in cruelty". (But the usual expression in English is "to out-Herod Herod").
P.S. Another common phrase in English is "[to go/perform/serve/fight] above and beyond the call of duty". This is a traditional construction used in giving awards and medals for military service, and as far as I know, the phrase "to go above and beyond" as used by Valda is a shortening of the military phraseology.
Wikipedia gives me the impression that "превышать долг службы" might be the correct Russian equivalent, but maybe someone could correct this.
Indeed, тыQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbert McGee
превзошёл сам себя
превзошла саму себя
превзошло само себя (if one can imagine referring to neuter gender interlocutor: "свет мой, зеркальце, скажи" and all this stuff)
it might be hard to find the exact equivalent in Russian, can't think of anything off the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Throbert McGee
most likey there is no the exact equivalent
in the military context you can say -
за доблестное выполнение воинского долга,
за блестящее выполнение боевой задачи (concrete miliary operation),
I have made those up, but they all make sense
"превышать долг службы" - not used
in the science and research context you can say - за выдающиеся заслуги в области танкостроения (и т.п.)
I found that construction in the Russian Wikipedia article about the U.S. Medal of Honor (i.e., it was a Russian author's translation of the English phrase).Quote:
Originally Posted by alexsms