Schaum's Grammar

Please correct my understanding of the text in the following sentences. I'm not sure if I understand them correctly. Спасибо.

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4. Ученики просили выйти из класса.
The students requested to go out of the classroom.

5. Врачи долго его диагнозировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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Originally Posted by tohca

Please correct my understanding of the text in the following sentences. I'm not sure if I understand them correctly. Спасибо.

Ex. 19
4. Ученики просили выйти из класса.
The students requested to go out of the classroom.

5. Врачи долго его диагнозировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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4. Correct. Also: The students asked to leave the classroom

5. The doctors diagnosed him for a long time.

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

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Originally Posted by tohca

5. Врачи долго его диагнозировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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5. The doctors diagnosed him for a long time.

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врачи = nominative?
его = accusative?
диагнозировали = genetive?

диагнозировали is the verb.

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Originally Posted by tohca

4. Ученики просили выйти из класса.
The students requested to go out of the classroom.

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This is either non-authentic sentence or sentence without wider context. Maybe it should read "Учеников..." In such a case, the translation is "The students are asked to leave the classroom." If the sentence is correct anyway, then it something like "The students asked <someone> to leave the classroom."

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5. Врачи долго его диагнозировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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The verb is written incorrectly. It is "диагностировали". Your understanding is all right.

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5. Врачи долго его диагностировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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I maybe wrong, but I'm not sure the English translation is correct... Where is его in the translation? Why is it their diagnosis?.. Maybe his?

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Originally Posted by scotcher

диагнозировали is the verb.

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:oops: :oops:

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Originally Posted by Оля

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5. Врачи долго его диагностировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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I maybe wrong, but I'm not sure the English translation is correct... Where is его in the translation? Why is it their diagnosis?.. Maybe his?

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You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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Originally Posted by Оля

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5. Врачи долго его диагностировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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I maybe wrong, but I'm not sure the English translation is correct... Where is его in the translation? Why is it their diagnosis?.. Maybe his?

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Sorry, I missed the его earlier. KV has already corrected my mistake earlier.

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Originally Posted by scotcher

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Originally Posted by Оля

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5. Врачи долго его диагностировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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I maybe wrong, but I'm not sure the English translation is correct... Where is его in the translation? Why is it their diagnosis?.. Maybe his?

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You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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Yes this is certainly much better. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by scotcher

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Originally Posted by Оля

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5. Врачи долго его диагностировали.
The doctors took a long time in their diagnosis.

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I maybe wrong, but I'm not sure the English translation is correct... Where is его in the translation? Why is it their diagnosis?.. Maybe his?

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You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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+1

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Originally Posted by scotcher

You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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The sentence isn't correct in Russian either. Диагностируют болезнь, а не пациента.

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Originally Posted by Полуношник

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Originally Posted by scotcher

You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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The sentence isn't correct in Russian either. Диагностируют болезнь, а не пациента.

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Fair enough, but couldn't его refer to a (masculine) illness? грипп, or рак, for example?

In which case the English translation would be something like "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing it".

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Originally Posted by scotcher

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Originally Posted by Полуношник

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Originally Posted by scotcher

You're right. The problem is that to express the Russian sentence in English properly you need to use a different sentence structure, because the direct translation, "The doctors diagnosed him for a long time", isn't idiomatic English.

I would say "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing him." is the closest you can get.

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The sentence isn't correct in Russian either. Диагностируют болезнь, а не пациента.

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Fair enough, but couldn't его refer to a (masculine) illness? грипп, or рак, for example?

In which case the English translation would be something like "The doctors spent a long time diagnosing it".

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Wow, this is yet another twister to the translation. :roll: Just when I thought I was making some progress .................... seems like it's still a very loooooooooooog way for me to go. :wink: