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    "To Get" in russian and a quick question about animacy

    So, i know that if you would like someone to physically grab something for you, you can say "Дай(те) + мне + (noun (i think in dative case) )

    But, how can in general you say " you can get it" "get the ball"

    So for example (Please translate for me): "Please, get me the ball"
    "You can get the ball yourself"
    "Go get it!"
    "He/she/it gets the ball"
    "They are getting the ball"
    "We are getting the ball"

    Now for the second part of my question: If masculine animate nouns take the genitive ending in the accusative, are all animals that have a masculine ending animate? And are all animals, masc or fem considered animate, but the feminine in the accusative just looks the same as the nominative?

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    What do you mean by "Get me the ball"? Where's the context?

    Is it like: "Hey guys, imma show you a new game but I need a ball for it, someone get me a ball" get=fetch?
    Or is it like: "Dude why did you kick the ball so hard that it flew to the neighbour's garden. Now go get the ball."
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    Right- Yeah i mean more like your first example "to get" in the sense of " to retrieve/ to give "

    I just figured that russians had a shorthand word for "to fetch/retrieve/give an object" like english speakers do with "to get"

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    get (fetch, find) = достать, найти, принести, притащить
    get (take out) = достать, вынуть, вытащить
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    Would you mind using Достать in a sentence? One meaning ( to fetch ) and the other (to take out), I'm just trying to get a concrete idea in my mind, thanks!

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    Although i have heard "Найти" before: e.g) "Мы нужно найти его!"

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    Would you mind using Достать in a sentence?
    It sounds perfect in both of the meanings. I suspect it works quite the same way as "get" does.
    Well, still, other options are posiible depending on the context or working subtle differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gottimhimmel View Post
    Now for the second part of my question: If masculine animate nouns take the genitive ending in the accusative, are all animals that have a masculine ending animate? And are all animals, masc or fem considered animate, but the feminine in the accusative just looks the same as the nominative?
    I'll answer the second part

    1. All animals are considered animate regardless of there ending.

    2. The feminine accusative never looks the same as the nominative since the feminine accusative has its own special ending:
    река (river) - реку - inanimate;
    сестра (sister) - сестру - animate (person);
    собака (dog) - собаку - animate (animal).

    The only exception are the feminine nouns which end in -ь:
    ночь (night) - ночь - inanimate;
    дочь (daughter) - дочь - animate (person);
    мышь (mouse) - мышь - animate (animal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gottimhimmel View Post
    "Дай(те) + мне + (noun (i think in dative case) )
    And no, the noun is in accusative. It's "мне" which is in dative.

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    Большое Спасибо все!
    Я сейчас понял.
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    But, how can in general you say " you can get it" "get the ball"
    Here we use intonation.
    "А сам что, не можешь взять? Рук что ли нет?"

    See also funny verb "раздобыть".

    The famous example:
    - Папа, переключи пожалуйста телевизор на детский канал, там мультики!
    - Возьми пульт и переключи сам.
    - Пап, ну подай мне его!
    - Встань и возьми!
    - Пап, ну у меня же ножек нет...
    - Нет ножек, нет мультиков!!!
    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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