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I encountered the ending "-ина" in the following sentence
"Сашина мама вошла в комнату". By googling I found that
"мама саши" got 670 hits and "сашина мама" got 594 hits.
I couldn't find any info on this in my my worn out penguin Russian course book. What are the grammatical rules for determining which ending to use?
"Сашина мама" = "Мама Саши".
You can use every variant.
Танин папа = Папа Тани
Димина бабушка = Бабушка Димы
etc
The ending depends on the gender of the object of possession.Quote:
What are the grammatical rules for determining which ending to use?
Сашина мама (мама is feminine)
Сашин друг (друг is masculine)
Сашино здоровье (здоровье is neuter)
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Originally Posted by Оля
Thanks a lot for the quick reply!
So it doesn't sound bookish to use the "-пн/о/а/и" ending instead of the
"usual" endings?
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickard
-ино/ина/ин endings are even more common in everydays speach, IMHO.
Not at all. It's perfectly common. Although the "-ин/ино/ина" endings are only possible after people's names or some other words denoting people (мамин халат, папина ошибка). Maybe there are some exceptions I don't remember.Quote:
So it doesn't sound bookish to use the "-пн/о/а/и" ending instead of the "usual" endings?
Oh, and the ending also changes to "-ины" in the plural form.
Сашины вещи (вещи is plural)
the bare genetive usually gives the meaning: "of -noun in genetive-"
such as
профессор русского языка = "Proffessor of the Russian Language/Russian Professor"
бутылка (французкого) вина = "Bottle of (French) wine"
Кошка моего брата = "My brother's cat/The cat of my brother"
Question to native speakers:
Would you say that the -ино/ина/ин endings are more often used by female speakers than male?
I mean like приветик - used more often by female speakers? Or is that just because of the diminutive?
Ehh?? Where did this come from? i've never heard of it before. Anyone got a link?
I don't think so. Absolutely not.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaika
"Сашина мама" = "Мама Саши".Quote:
Originally Posted by Оля
"Sasha's mother" = "mother of Sasha"
In Russian attribute placed before main word is preferrable. Especially for short attribute. It is more comfortable. There is no additional pause after main word.
"Сашина мама" = "Мама Саши".
"Костина мама" = "Мама Кости".
"Константинова мама" (bad) = "Мама Константина" (good).
Пришел Сашин папа. (А не петин)
Пришел папа Саши. (А не мама)
It also works with double possessives:
Друзья Сашиного брата = Sasha's brother's friends(lit: The friends of Sasha's brother)
OK, thanks. Where I got that was I read ten or so novels by Alexandra Marinina, sort of a contemporary Agatha Christie, and the form appears a lot in characters' speech.
Well, there are certain words that tend to be used by one gender or the other. How many native English-speaking males here have used the word "lovely" to describe something? =:^0
I do, quite often actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaika
Я знаю многих мужчин, которые так говорят. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by chaika
Я мужчина, которой так говорит. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by basurero