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    Re: Я заблудился?

    In my experience, "ladies" don't usually know such words, or at least they do not use them...
    in England it is NOT a good idea for a woman to use rude words...
    Oops, sorry Zaya! I guess if even English Wiktionary knew the slang meaning of this word, then you did too.
    I first got the impression that it was an obscure slang word, but clearly it's a famous slang word...
    I have already written everything I know about its using. I can add that in this meaning the word is very rude. But I don't think I should be ashamed that I wrote about that meaning here. Or that I know about it. I don't use such words and I wasn't going to recommend you to use it. ))) I just wanted to warn you (I believe that it's always better to know which words are not to use except the cases when you are sure they sound 100% ok and can't mean anything bad in the context, to know that the word someone has used in your presence is bad etc.). And neither Ramil nor I wrote anything unacceptable. I didn't even say what exactly the word means, I just wrote the word "genitals," it's a medical term, isn't it? It was you who posted the link with rude words (Russian and English ones).
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Zaya, you're confusing Johanna more and more this way.

    Johanna, there's nothing wrong with this word. You CAN use it referring to a headgear and nobody would raise an eyebrow no matter how prude people surrounding you would be.

    Only, as Zaya said, this word is also a slang euphemism for a certain part of female body.
    There's more, you can also use this word to describe a woman whose mental abilities raise certain doubts or whose temper had seen better days.
    This is why your original post was so funny.

    It was something like 'The drunk b.tch got lost!' (well, almost, but ruder).

    Older people would use another word though which is probably even ruder, but this is a subject of another thread.


    As for the female pilots you cannot say летчица about an astronaut. It would be женщина-космонавт. There's no shorter alternative, i'm afraid.


    Check this Russian wikipedia article - there's женщина-космонавт.
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    ...Hm, since we all learn here, I have to add that this word has recently (or not too recently) became a part of the young men slang with quite a rude meaning ...
    It's total news to me.
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    You CAN use it referring to a headgear and nobody would raise an eyebrow
    Of course it's ok to use the word referring to a headgear, nobody denied it.
    There's more, you can also use this word to describe a woman whose mental abilities raise certain doubts or whose temper had seen better days.
    I still think it would sound very rude.
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaya
    There's more, you can also use this word to describe a woman whose mental abilities raise certain doubts or whose temper had seen better days.
    I still think it would sound very rude.
    Yes, it would. That's the point. Some even add 'Тупая ...'.
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Returning to the topic, there are more examples, here:

    1) Футболка (a t-shirt)
    2) Футболистка (a female football player)
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    I am sure there IS some kind of logic to how the male/female words are constructed, I just don't know enough to see it yet.
    Professions which mainly used by men have not feminine gender:

    пилот
    врач
    директор
    сантехник
    слесарь
    механик
    администратор
    менеджер
    судья
    юрист
    адвокат
    милиционер/полицейский

    and so on...
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    Re: Я заблудился ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alexB
    Пилот = pilot It doesn’t change with gender. If a pilot is female you’ll have to switch to лётчица or add to a пилот some gender defining word like say a female pilot’s name пилот Катя, пилот Иванова, or in some other way, for example она была хорошим пилотом.
    You forget old Russian word пилотесса (from French? "pilotesse")! It was popular 100 yeas ago and can be used at present time with a slightly poetic meaning.

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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Thanks delog, for the list of professions that cannot be made female.

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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    Thanks delog, for the list of professions that cannot be made female.
    There are professions that can be made only by female. The nouns for these professions don't have masculine variants:
    няня, швея...

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D1% ... 0%BD%D1%8C
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Полуношник
    няня, швея...
    Children can do this easily. There's even a movie Усатый нянь.
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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    Thanks delog, for the list of professions that cannot be made female.
    Неправильный список.
    Если "пилотесса" слово чуть устаревшее, то "директриса" бывает практически в каждой школе!

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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Concerning the word космонавт and its impossibility of being of a female gender. Here's a joke:

    Учительница в школе спрашивает детей, кто кем хочет стать, когда вырастет. Кто-то говорит "банкиром", кто-то "бизнесменом", кто-то "политиком" (в общем, их ответы отражают современную реальность). Когда доходит очередь до Вовочки, тот мнётся и не хочет отвечать. Учительница говорит ему:
    - Ну что же ты, Вовочка, не отвечаешь? Скажи, нам интересно. Всякие профессии нужны в нашем обществе...
    - Ну ладно, только вы будете смеяться.
    - Да не будем мы смеяться, обещаем.
    - Ну ладно, я хочу стать космонавтом.
    - Ну что же тут смешного, -- отвечает учительница. -- Раньше многие дети хотели стать космонавтом, это была их мечта. Да и в наши дни это замечательная профессия, ведь космонавты такие известные, все их уважают.
    - Да нет, вы не совсем поняли -- женщиной-космонавтом...

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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Thanks propp!
    I am so pleased because I was able to more or less understand the entire story!!!!!

    I only missed the last line - why does he want to be a female cosmonaut - he's a boy, right? And why is it funny?

    I mean, the female cosmonauts were respected, right?
    I only know of one though - Tereshkova. But she is very famous and respected, isn't she?

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    Re: Я заблудился?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johanna
    And why is it funny?
    +1
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

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