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  1. September 19th, 2005, 03:03 PM #1
    Ilkay
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    помимо

    I'm trying to understand how to use this word "помимо" as in the examples below. Can someone give me simpler examples?

    - Помимо стратечическго уровня, шока от обманутых ожиданий относительно ультимамума, который испытал Кремль был шок оперативно-тактический, которому подверглась советская армия.

    - Помимо этого, неприятные сюрпризы ожидали советские командование и на чисто техническом уровне, ибо если немцы устранили многие дефекты в своих системах вооружения после кампаий в Польше и во Франции, то Красная Армия была вынуждена делать это по ходу боев.
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  2. September 19th, 2005, 04:31 PM #2
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    The word 'помимо' has a number of meanings. I will try to explain them all.

    помимо
    1. =besides, in addition, furthemore
    Помимо того, он ещё был и большим любителем собирать марки.
    Besides, he was also keen on collecting stamps.

    Note that we add того in this case

    You can also use помимо всего прочего

    2. besides (in addition to sth or someone else that is being mentioned)
    Помимо итальянского они изучают ещё много других предметов.
    They study lots of other subjects besides Italian.
    "A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read"
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  3. September 19th, 2005, 04:46 PM #3
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    ReDSanchous is right, and "помимо" usually can be replaced with "кроме". "помимо" mostly is used in literature and rarely in speech.
    There is one exception: "помимо моей/его/etc воли" means literally "in spite of my/his/etc will".
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  4. September 19th, 2005, 04:52 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimakrat
    ReDSanchous is right, and "помимо" usually can be replaced with "кроме". "помимо" mostly is used in literature and rarely in speech.
    There is one exception: "помимо моей/его/etc воли" means literally "in spite of my/his/etc will".
    Примеры:

    Помимо меня, никто не пришел. - Noone came, except me.
    Помимо меня пришли Андрей и Мария. Besides me, Andrei and Maria came.
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  5. September 22nd, 2005, 02:36 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimakrat
    Помимо меня, никто не пришел. - Noone came, except me.
    Помимо меня пришли Андрей и Мария. Besides me, Andrei and Maria came.
    These examples sound very awkward, кроме in this context is much better.
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  6. September 22nd, 2005, 07:35 PM #6
    ReDSanchous
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    They sound fine to me! Both кроме and помимо look fine to me in those sentences.
    "A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read"
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  7. September 23rd, 2005, 04:43 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milanya
    These examoles sound very awkward, кроме in this context is much better.
    They sound bookish.
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  8. September 23rd, 2005, 10:32 PM #8
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    I agree that it's pretty formal but Ilkay just asked us to give a couple of simpler examples. That's what we did
    "A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read"
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