Мол

Could someone please translate and explain this to me?

Advance Thanks :D


This sentence is the one I most need to understand, in particular the expression/word Мол and why she is asked not to use it.

Мой начальник, например, попросил меня недавно, не употреблять одно выражение в речи.... Мол, может это его личное неприятие, но все же....


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I am new to this and trying to understand these expressions. :D

Каждый по-своему выражает превосходную степень.
Влад использует слово "офигительно!".
Женина высшая стадия звучит : "Это пиздец!!!"
У Маринкиной подружки, которую я в глаза не видела, то же самое определяется словом "балдежно".
Ужасно интересно прислушаться к людям на пике их восторга.

Мой начальник, например, попросил меня недавно, не употреблять одно выражение в речи.... Мол, может это его личное неприятие, но все же....
Я не тиран и не мучитель. Потому - ОК, стараюсь не употреблять.

Thanks again

Афтар жжош! Пешы исчо. :)
Мол means that author is saying another person speech. Something like "they say" or in this case "he says".
EDIT: "Мой начальник, например, попросил меня недавно, не употреблять одно выражение в речи.... Мол, может это его личное неприятие, но все же.... " - My boss, for example, not long ago asked me don't use one expression in the speech. He said, maybe it is his own dislike, but...

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Originally Posted by Sestra

"Это пиздец!!!"

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Точно.

Thanks so much for you help, JJ. :thanks:

As I am sure all of you can tell I have little knowledge of the Russian language. I am not a student studying Russian at university or anything like that. My work is making it necessary to read some Russian newspaper articles and etc. :wall:
Online translators are great but they are not human. I can recognise a few nouns in Russian but that is all. :roll:

Words and expressions that don't translate well roboticly are driving me crazy and, of course, most all of them don't. :wall:

I would love to study Russian but unfortunately work does not have years to wait while I study. :dunno:


Back to the topic -

I understand that her boss has a personal aversion to her saying a certain word or expression. But I need to clarify. What he doesn't want her to say is "they say or he says". Is that correct?

I am trying to understand what it is her boss doesn't like and why.

I think what she is saying is that her boss wants her to be more specific and not use this generality which could sound almost like rumor.

For example: If she said, " They say the Rolling Stones have a new guitarist. " Her boss would prefer that she say something more like, " According to an article in The New York Times, The Rolling Stones have hired a new guitarist." Is this correct ? :D

Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это пиздец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops: Nor do I understand
"офигительно!" or "балдежно".

Again, thanks for your patient assistance:)

Hi, Sestra!
I'm afraid, you've got a little bit wrong here. :)))
"Мол" is a kind of special word in speech that means what follows after it belongs to other person's opinion, not to that one who actually speaks it. It's like a spoken variant of quotation marks "", indirect speech.
So the phrase

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Мол, может это его личное неприятие, но все же....

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He says/ he goes like: "May be it's my personal aversion, but nevertheless..." ["...don't use this word" etc.]

I highly suspect he has an aversion to the same "pizdets", mentioned before... :) You too... you'd better avoid it in decent society!!!

BTW, the case in point is how different people express their utter amazement, so the metioned Russian words are like "Wow, Great, Wicked, F@@@d Jesus!" and so in English

I think I have finally got it ! :D

:thanks: :thanks: :thanks: Bless you, Propp for explaining it so my simple mind could grasp it !!!!!

Even more thanks for keeping me decent !!! :oops:

Thankfully, I don't have to speak or write in Russian. Just having to read Russian and write in English about what I have read is enough to keep me in trouble. :shocked2: :wink:

Out of utter and sheer curiosity, what kind a job makes you read a language you don't understand? And are they hiring? :wink:

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Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это 3,14здец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops:

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Check your private messages.

I write about a Russian singer/band. We do regular interviews which are currently produced in four languages for Russian and non-Russian speaking fans.

I read every Russian newspaper and magazine article that I can find about the band.

I also read many other articles and use them for practice and study. Hence the above paragraph and questions :)

Really nothing mysterious no espionage or anything, just swimming with the fishes. :wink: :cool2:

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Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это 3,14здец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops:

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Check your private messages.

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Hehe. I know what that word means, and I'm sure she's in for a surprise when she looks in her message box... :lol: It is kind of weird that we don't have a version of that phrase in English, though...

I know my ignorance is amusing :lol: :P
However, I do apologize for posting mat on the forum. I am sure there is a rule against such and I did not mean to violate it. :oops:

As I said above, I read mainstream newspapers and magzines where I don't encounter mat so I am not familiar with it. :oops:

I read the paragraph I asked about in an on line blog and was not expecting to see mat. :o No wonder I couldn't translate those words. :? :duh:

I believe it is time for me to purchase a mat dictionary so I can check it for words I don't know, before I ask questions. :duh:

Thanks again !

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Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это 3,14здец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops:

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Check your private messages.

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Hehe. I know what that word means, and I'm sure she's in for a surprise when she looks in her message box... :lol: It is kind of weird that we don't have a version of that phrase in English, though...

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Not even very close?

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Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это 3,14здец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops:

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Check your private messages.

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Hehe. I know what that word means, and I'm sure she's in for a surprise when she looks in her message box... :lol: It is kind of weird that we don't have a version of that phrase in English, though...

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Not even very close?

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Nah, we tend to avoid such references to that, uhm, "part," for the most part. Certainly not in this context -- we'd just say "sh*t" or "crap."

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Thanks for your response Rtyom, I have heard this expression - Это 3,14здец but I don't know what pizdets are. :oops:

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Check your private messages.

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Hehe. I know what that word means, and I'm sure she's in for a surprise when she looks in her message box... :lol: It is kind of weird that we don't have a version of that phrase in English, though...

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Not even very close?

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Nah, we tend to avoid such references to that, uhm, "part," for the most part. Certainly not in this context -- we'd just say "sh*t" or "cr@p."

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Enlighten me, will yer?

V. Shlyakhov and E. Adler, Russian Slang & Colloquial Expressions has about a page and a half on пизд* and its derrivatives.

The best dictionary on the subject I've come across.

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Originally Posted by Seventh-Monkey

Enlighten me, will yer?

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это п*здец = That's p*ssy/c*nt! I don't know about you Brits, but we'd never say that. Of course you can call a person a "p*ssy/c*nt" but you'd never use it in that construct.

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это п*здец = That's p*ssy/c*nt! I don't know about you Brits, but we'd never say that. Of course you can call a person a "p*ssy/c*nt" but you'd never use it in that construct.

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I hear Aussies use c*nt quite frequently.

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Enlighten me, will yer?

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это п*здец = That's p*ssy/c*nt! I don't know about you Brits, but we'd never say that. Of course you can call a person a "p*ssy/c*nt" but you'd never use it in that construct.

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I hear Aussies use c*nt quite frequently.

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Interesting. Never knew that. Basically in the States, it's about the most offensive single word you can use -- but then you knew that already, I'm sure.

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Interesting. Never knew that. Basically in the States, it's about the most offensive single word you can use -- but then you knew that already, I'm sure.

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Absolutely. Personally, I prefer p*ssy. It sounds warm and inviting.

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Absolutely. Personally, I prefer p*ssy. It sounds warm and inviting.

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I'm sure it purrs too.

As for the mysterious п*здец, it is not really p*ssy/c*nt, but its derivative. My understanding is that it is a hybrid between п*здa (p*ssy/c*nt) and the end (конец), basically a sh*tty end. And that's what it means, a tragic end with an exclamation point. However, it could be used as an expression of extreme delight among artsy and other refined people.

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Absolutely. Personally, I prefer p*ssy. It sounds warm and inviting.

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I'm sure it purrs too.

As for the mysterious п*здец, it is not really p*ssy/c*nt, but its derivative. My understanding is that it is a hybrid between п*здa (p*ssy/c*nt) and the end (конец), basically a sh*tty end.

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I'm inclined to think the following because of -ец:

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Словообразовательная единица, образующая разговорно-просторечные синонимы мотивирующих имен существительных общего рода (напр. стервец, шельмец)

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But who really knows. :|

-ец is very common, although quite old suffix, it may denote anything you want. Красавец, молодец, палец, творец. Песец at last, which sometimes is an euphemism (replacement) for the word you mentiioned above.
Personnally I like this phrase: "Песец подкрался незаметно".

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Originally Posted by chaika

V. Shlyakhov and E. Adler, Russian Slang & Colloquial Expressions has about a page and a half on пизд* and its derrivatives.

The best dictionary on the subject I've come across.

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You better burn the book now! I have the same book, and the Russians demanded that I burned it, because it was way off base!

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Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

You better burn the book now! I have the same book, and the Russians demanded that I burned it, because it was way off base!

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Replace it with Словарь Нецензурных Слов by Drummond and Perkins