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To our members living in and around the Chicago area.… I heard something on the news the other day about this being the worst year ever or in a long time for murders? And also a large number of deaths due to the heat???
What is going on over there?
I lived in Chicago for about a year to attend college and I didn't have air conditioning. I guess this summer is really bad?
But what about all these shootings?
Haven't heard about shootings but weather stays above 90F for almost 40 days already
Global warming.
For the first half of 2012, homicides jumped about 39 percent over the year-earlier period, while shootings rose 9 percent. Chicago church leaders call for a weekend of peace - Chicago Tribune
That was the news item I heard about and apparently even during the weekend of peace there were shootings.
Then from last night... A 16-year-old boy and eight others were wounded by gunfire across Chicago Friday night and Saturday morning, according to police.
Nine wounded in shootings across city - chicagotribune.com
And you dear Doomer have not heard anything about this???
Are they in gangs or drug dealers or why does this happen? Why Chicacago?
Tragic either way.
In the UK, guns are not available to anyone but those who can prove that they need it for sport, or people with cash and criminal contacts. So guns are not available to gangs - they use knives instead and there are a few gang related knife killings per year. But the police are on a massive hunt of these knives and confiscate all they come across.
And the idea of banning guns probably wouldn't work in the USA - there are too many guns around already, it would be impossible to collect and control them all:
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states:
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Number of Privately Owned Firearms
The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,0001
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Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
The rate of private gun ownership in the United States is 88.82 firearms per 100 people
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Rate of Privately Owned Firearms per 100 Population - World Ranking
In a comparison of the rate of private gun ownership in 179 countries, the United States ranked at No. 1
Compare with Russia:
Although I think the figure must be wrong - the figure is much lower than Sweden and Finland. I thought shooting for game was a hobby in Russia....
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Civilian Guns
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Number of Privately Owned Firearms
The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in Russia is 12,750,0001
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Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population
The rate of private gun ownership in Russia is 8.92 firearms per 100 people
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Rate of Privately Owned Firearms per 100 Population - World Ranking
In a comparison of the rate of private gun ownership in 179 countries, Russia ranked at No. 682
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Number of Registered Firearms
The number of registered guns in Russia is reported to be 5,000,0001
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Rate of Registered Firearms per 100 Population
The rate of registered firearms per 100 people in Russia is 3.503
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Number of Privately Owned Rifles
In Russia, the number of rifles in civilian possession is reported to be 226,0004
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Number of Privately Owned Shotguns
In Russia, the number of shotguns in civilian possession is reported to be 3,410,000
Doomer... you still haven't heard anything about these shootings??
Monday night...
At least 10 people were wounded in seven shootings across Chicago overnight, police said.
Saturday night...
A man was killed and at least 16 others were shot across the city Saturday evening and this morning, continuing a streak of violence that has left dozens wounded in recent days.
Friday night...
4 killed, 14 others wounded across Chicago
Thursday night...
Nineteen people were shot across the South and West sides from Thursday evening through early Friday morning -- 13 of them wounded over a 30-minute period, authorities say.
Nope :) But I live in suburbsQuote:
Originally Posted by rockzmom
Here is the interactive map, if you'd like - Chicago, IL Crime Map - Showing Crimes in Chicago - Crime Statistics, Alerts and Reports - Crime Stops Here
Here is the map of NY too - New York, NY Crime Map - Showing Crimes in New York - Crime Statistics, Alerts and Reports - Crime Stops Here
So you live in the suburbs and are blissfully ignorant. Love it. I live in the suburbs too, yet I knew all about the shooting at a school that took place in Baltimore yesterday, even my sister who lives in Los Angeles knew about it! I find your lack of knowing what happens in Chicago very interesting. I'm not putting you down, honestly, I find it fascinating. Maybe it is because I grew up always watching the news that automatically covers such a large area that I am sort of programmed to tap into the news for a larger area? I am used to hearing news about Washington, Maryland and Virginia as well as news from the Baltimore area if it was important even though technically, that would be a different news channel for me, our local stations would carry it like they did yesterday about the school shooting.
For the past few days, my dad has been watching the news about the hurricane and now tropical storm. It is no where near us, but he is still watching it.
I envy the amount of free time you have :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rockzmom
I guess it’s the harbinger of incipient revival of the notorious Chicago Outfit allegedly formerly closely connected with local politicians*. I've seen somwhere that folks prognosticate outbreaks of its activity after a good spell of pacifying hibernation. =@
*Newsalert: The Political Corruption Behind Barack Obama and ChicagoQuote:
Although other urban areas had their share of corruption, Chicago remained unique for its mixture of Organized Crime and political organization. The extent of Mafia influence on the city is still not fully appreciated, even by long-time residents. We think of Mobs hijacking trucks or businesses – not ballot boxes. But the ability to deliver votes and manipulate elected officials provided more muscle to the Outfit than their army of enforcers.